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The 11th hour of the 11th day of the eleventh month......
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This Remembrance Day, I am dedicating my thoughts to young Marcus Cirillo whose Dad was killed honouring all of our nation's troops at the National War Memorial in Ottawa last month.
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In Flanders Fields, it seems one of the most poignant reminders of the awesome futility of war. How is this a bad thing?]]>ChrisR2014-11-12T20:02:16-00:00Re: The 11th hour of the 11th day of the eleventh month......
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ChrisR wrote on Wed, 12 November 2014 20:02Without intending any malice, what is the controversy over the Poppy in the UK and Ireland? Given the poem In Flanders Fields, it seems one of the most poignant reminders of the awesome futility of war. How is this a bad thing?
--The red poppy is a symbol of remembrance, but appears to have become misunderstood as somehow glorifying war. I suspect inscriptions such as "Our Glorious Dead" or similar have not been helpful here, for the dead are not glorious, nor is war a glorious thing, even if the war can be considered to be just, as the winners usually consider it. It has also become a badge that "must be seen to be being worn" on all TV shows here on dates so far in advance of 11 November that I cringe. I will only wear one on 11 November.
NW is our expert on the white poppy. That I will leave entirely to him]]>timmy2014-11-12T23:27:14-00:00Re: The 11th hour of the 11th day of the eleventh month......
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ChrisR2014-11-13T00:29:54-00:00Re: The 11th hour of the 11th day of the eleventh month......
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The White Poppy started very shortly after the red poppy, when a number of relatives of those killed in the Great War started feeling that the Red Poppy was tending to glorify war and "the old lie" (dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori : it is a sweet and fitting thing to die for ones country). For many years now, it's been the symbol of the Peace Pledge Union. The Peace Pledge reads: War is a crime against humanity. I renounce war, and am therefore determined not to support any kind of war. I am also determined to work for the removal of all causes of war.'