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These forums are protected  [message #74627] Mon, 30 July 2018 23:02 Go to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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We have a set of jokers who have been using bots to register spam accounts. Doubtless a few get through, but what they cannot understand is that the forum is protected.

There will be some false positives. Those can email me for my personal consideration. 



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Re: These forums are protected  [message #74628 is a reply to message #74627] Tue, 31 July 2018 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark   United States

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"timmy wrote on Mon, 30 July 2018 17:02"
We have a set of jokers who have been using bots to register spam accounts. Doubtless a few get through, but what they cannot understand is that the forum is protected.

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Personally, I'm wondering if it's more along the lines of they don't realize that the forum is protected, rather than an inability to understand that concept, though, of course, why this detail should surprise anyone who stops to think about it is perhaps what is amazing - being what the site is about, of course you (as site owner/administrator) are going to take precautions to prevent spamming.
Re: These forums are protected  [message #74631 is a reply to message #74628] Tue, 31 July 2018 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William King is currently offline  William King   France

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The Forum is not protected, it does not have SSL, which is usually indicated by an address starting https and a padlock. Different browsers have different icons for unprotected sites, my own browser shows IOMFATS with a red warning triangle, other browsers may have different indicators in the address bar.

What does this mean? A site without SSL means that data exchanged between your computer and the server on which the site is hosted is not encrypted. That makes eavesdropping, interception, and changing data possible. But let's not get paranoid, this is not a bank, you don't send anything here other than your comments. Nevertheless, the vast majority of sites these days are encrypted.
icon13.gif Re: These forums are protected  [message #74632 is a reply to message #74631] Tue, 31 July 2018 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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"William King wrote on Tue, 31 July 2018 18:20"
The Forum is not protected, it does not have SSL, which is usually indicated by an address starting https and a padlock. Different browsers have different icons for unprotected sites, my own browser shows IOMFATS with a red warning triangle, other browsers may have different indicators in the address bar.

What does this mean? A site without SSL means that data exchanged between your computer and the server on which the site is hosted is not encrypted. That makes eavesdropping, interception, and changing data possible. But let's not get paranoid, this is not a bank, you don't send anything here other than your comments. Nevertheless, the vast majority of sites these days are encrypted.

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You are missing the point by a country mile and confusing two things.

The HTTPS element is absolutely irrelevant to this. Your explanation shows that you have a technical understanding of that arena, but it is not at all what I was talking about. Seriously now I wish I had not bothered to tell anyone what was happening. It was kind of you to use facts to take a snipe at the forum, though, and, by inference, at me and the entire site. Maybe I should just delete the forum entirely?

Let me also mention that this is not a commercial web site, and that I run it out of the goodness of my heart. And that I am not at all interested in your browser's red warning triangle.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/coasterpedia/images/7/70/Warning_triangle_red.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/556?cb=20121209115746

Keeping crap off the forum is not an easy task. I do it quietly and behind the scenes, but I really do not have to. Perhaps you would prefer me to ignore it and let others use it as a link farm?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hongkongbus/images/f/f9/Roadworks.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/272?cb=20110312022352&path-prefix=zh

In case you have not got the message, HTTPS will not prevent the spammers from registering nor from filling the place with ordure. That can only be done by me and the very few people I appoint as real life moderators

[Updated on: Tue, 31 July 2018 23:36]




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Re: These forums are protected  [message #74633 is a reply to message #74632] Tue, 31 July 2018 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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By the way, as far as I can tell, the site is labelled for you as not safe because it contains gay erotic literature, and whatever tool you deploy on your computer picks that up form some sort of site safety register. I don't know what tools you use to allegedly enhance your security online nor what browser you are using, but why not use this commonly available tool to check?

http://forum.iomfats.org/?t=getfile&id=4635&private=0

Isn't it interesting that it shows that the site is not unsafe? Google does tend to be reasonably accurate. It's their business, you see.



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Re: These forums are protected  [message #74634 is a reply to message #74633] Wed, 01 August 2018 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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So, why did I say this:

"Quote:"
We have a set of jokers who have been using bots to register spam accounts. Doubtless a few get through, but what they cannot understand is that the forum is protected.

There will be some false positives. Those can email me for my personal consideration. 


Because I was concerned that some real registrations of real users might have been blocked by my actions. I did not say it in order to receive advice, however well intentioned

[Updated on: Wed, 01 August 2018 00:05]




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Re: These forums are protected  [message #74635 is a reply to message #74634] Wed, 01 August 2018 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William King is currently offline  William King   France

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Tim, if you're running a website, it's a lot of work, I appreciate that. I can also appreciate the problem with spam registrations that you have to deal with. I am simply pointing out what Google says, and that little red triangle is important.

Beginning in July 2018 with the release of Chrome 68, Chrome will mark all HTTP sites as "not secure". Getting a warning like that is, imo, going to put people off visiting the site. Google say they will downgrade site rankings for non-https sites. My information comes from Google, https://security.googleblog.com/2018/02/a-secure-web-is-here -to-stay.html

It's your site and your decision what you do.

Pointing out that the website is not secure is not "having a snipe," or certainly was not intended in that way, it was simply a reply to the previous statement that the forum is protected (perhaps it was off topic from the point you originally made). Rest assured I and everyone else (I'm sure) appreciate the work you do ☺

icon13.gif Re: These forums are protected  [message #74636 is a reply to message #74635] Wed, 01 August 2018 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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It appears that you missed the point entirely, and have continued to do so by carrying on and re-making the point that you decided to make. Ok, you nodded agreement to the fact that I do some significant work, but you have, instead, hijacked this thread to make your own entirely different and unrelated point.

I wonder how appropriate you feel that behaviour is?


There is absolutely no need for all web traffic to be secure. Google is marketing SSL certificates and is doing so by extorting webmasters with its 'simple' message. Who will pay? Will you? Special offers for the first year of trivial amounts will soon rise and put ordinary web sites such as this one out of business, and for no reason other than profit.

The only web traffic that requires security is traffic that reveals sensitive personal data.

[Updated on: Wed, 01 August 2018 09:11]




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icon4.gif Mail Anonymiser Services  [message #74704 is a reply to message #74627] Tue, 14 August 2018 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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I am dealing with a deluge of forum registrations for spam purposes, around 20 per day. Most of these come from mail anonymiser services, and I am gradually blocking those as I become aware of them. I managed to block the service a member uses so I have unblocked that one.

If you are affected by this and receive a message that your email address is filtered out, email me directly.

I also block IP addresses and ranges. Same deal.



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Here are just a couple  [message #74761 is a reply to message #74704] Mon, 20 August 2018 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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This is what I am up against. Only two in the last 24 hours, but it is often 10 or more and is remorseless.

http://forum.iomfats.org/?t=getfile&id=4697&private=0

I take loads of steps to block this crap. It only arrives from very bad scamming search engine optimisation companies. If I left them alone and approived them they would issue automated spam posts ad nauseam



Inconsistent use of capital letters is the difference between Bobby helping Uncle Jack off a horse, AND Bobby helping uncle jack off a horse!
Re: Here are just a couple  [message #74762 is a reply to message #74761] Mon, 20 August 2018 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ivor slipper is currently offline  ivor slipper   United Kingdom

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I give up - why would anyone want to download the attachment to your last message? Or is it 'bots at work'?
Re: Here are just a couple  [message #74763 is a reply to message #74762] Mon, 20 August 2018 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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Whenever it is presneted on the screen it is 'downloaded'



Inconsistent use of capital letters is the difference between Bobby helping Uncle Jack off a horse, AND Bobby helping uncle jack off a horse!
Re: These forums are protected  [message #74869 is a reply to message #74627] Sat, 15 September 2018 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William King is currently offline  William King   France

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Not sure if this is of any interest, but whilst travelling and connecting via hotel WiFi I found this site was prohibited by Norton Security, classified as pornography.

[Updated on: Sat, 15 September 2018 09:01] by Moderator

Re: These forums are protected  [message #74872 is a reply to message #74869] Sat, 15 September 2018 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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Well, it does deal with ~gasp~ sex. And that is filtered out by people who think that sex is missioanry position male and female, once a month for having children.  Would you mind replacing that H U G E image with a smaller version?

But it is still nothing to do with the work I do keep shit and spam off the forums.

http://forum.iomfats.org/?t=getfile&id=4758&private=0

That is just today's crop.



Inconsistent use of capital letters is the difference between Bobby helping Uncle Jack off a horse, AND Bobby helping uncle jack off a horse!
Re: These forums are protected  [message #74873 is a reply to message #74872] Sat, 15 September 2018 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William King is currently offline  William King   France

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I have no idea how to delete the image. Sorry cannot find the edit button. It just uploaded HUGE
Re: These forums are protected  [message #74874 is a reply to message #74873] Sat, 15 September 2018 09:04 Go to previous message
timmy   United Kingdom

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"William King wrote on Sat, 15 September 2018 08:25"
I have no idea how to delete the image. Sorry cannot find the edit button. It just uploaded HUGE

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The edit button's position was affected by the enormousness of the image, which then affected the entire thread width. I have removed the image fomr display, though it may still be viewed by downloading it. The edit button is at the bottom right of your posts. Or ought to be. We cannto edit pictures within the forum. Instead we trust the poster.

One sees the thing is H U G E when one inserts it into the post and one needs to make a judgement than about the B I G N E S S and how it wil affect everyone else.



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