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The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71001] Fri, 05 February 2016 19:29 Go to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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I have been chatting to an online friend about penises. Right, that was the time for sniggering over.

We moved past the relative aesthetic merits of the circumcised penis versus the intact penis quite quickly. Apart from a bit of visual titillation, the appearance is the least interesting element. Instead we became interested in the mechanics of, quality or, ease of reach and ease of delaying orgasm.

Some knowledge of the penis is required. Reading foreskin is useful, here.

Each penis owner usually only has one state, his current state, a state which has been with him since birth or just after birth, so he only has himself to compare himself with.

The intact penis has retained its entire structure, with nerve endings both inside the prepuce and on the glans, each of which provide sexual sensation. By definition the frenulum is intact, too, a place acknowledged to have the highest concentration of nerve endings. The glans may be anything from fully to partially covered, and the prepuce may or may not retract spontaneously on erection. Either is normal, but spontaneous retraction seems to be less usual that the glans remaining covered. The glans of this penis is usually highly sensitive to touch, often too sensotove to touch woth dry skin

Depending upon the method of circumcision, the circumcised penis may retain some inner prepuce, or not (look for the scar) and may or may not retain its frenulum. The glans is exposed at all times. It loses flexibility and tone as clothing and the elements affect it. The term is "keratinisation" and occurs because the sensitive mucous membrane that is the glans must protect itself from harm.

During penetrative sex, anal or vaginal, the two penis styles perform differently.

The circumcised penis must open the way with the tip of the glans, using it to push the tissues apart and enter the desired receptor

The uncircumcised penis usually has the prepuce gathered at the tip, ready to roll down, a little like a turtle neck sweater. If the prepuce is retracted the entry is performed in an entirely similar manner to the circumcised penis. If it os not retracted then the aperture it enters retracts the prepuce as it enters.  You can postulate a kind of faux-lubrication in this case, because that is what it is. The "parting of the ways" is easier with an intact penis.

At this point it needs to be emphasised that vaginal entry rarely requires extra lube. Anal entry pretty much always does.

We have a page on the main site showing the mechanics of the prepuce

Move to the ins and outs of penetrative sex, now.

With the intact penis the prepuce is forever rolling up and down the organ and covers and uncovers the glans smoothly. The circumcised penis rubs the glans at all times on the inside surface of the chosen tunnel.

So much for mechanics and description.

This is where facts start to take on a personal theme. Almost no-one knows what sexual sensation was like with and without a prepuce. Much bullshit has been postulated by opponents and proponents of circumcision. We need to use good sense and the little data we have.

We have two people on this forum that know the difference a prepuce makes, whcih gives us a little data, but let's use logic instead.

Ask a man with a prepuce if he can stand his glans being rubbed. Some can, most not. It's too sensitive. Ask a man without a prepuce the same question. His is being rubbed constantly, but he is not in a constant state of arousal. He can cope easily.

So, if the intact penis is so sensitive, does that lead to a hair trigger?

Remember, sex is for babies. Recreational sex is just fun. A hair trigger when making babies is desirable in case the female gets bored and wanders off!

For recreational sex we have learned, almost all of us, to control when orgasm hits. We know how to delay it and how to work towards it. This is no different for the intact or circumcised man. The intact penis owner has the luxury of being more relaxed when engaging in penetrative sex. The circumcised chap has to do more work to counteract the lowered sensitivity. Obviously there is a point when it all gets a bit frantic, I am looking at the pre-vinegar strokes part!

Sex in mainstream movies is different from real sex. Hollywood, the preserve of the almost entirely circumcised male, has long promoted the massive missionary position thrusting, porking hard for the camera. Porn is fashioned after Hollywood and has long represented the same, but it is changing. Heterosexual and homosexual porn alike, when the penetrator is intact the thrusting is more relaxed. Well, except heading for the money shot, that is!

And how about the penetrated partner, what of their feelings?

The only reports I have seen are from ladies, who state that the gliding motion of the intact penis allows longer sex, assuming the gentleman can control his rush to orgasm, and that the thrusting motion of the circumcised penis can become uncomfortable without lube, and the act better not go on too long! I have no idea if the same is true with a penetrated gentleman, because the walls of the rectum and the vagina, while both mucous membrane, behave differently.

[Updated on: Sat, 06 February 2016 08:51]




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Re: The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71002 is a reply to message #71001] Fri, 05 February 2016 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy   United Kingdom

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Now, the reason for this lengthy preamble is because so many men and boys have no-one to talk to about sex and how their penis works. So I wanted to give us a place to discuss just that.

It might be necessary to post penis, anus or even ~gasp~ vagina pictures to illustrate things, please try not to be pornographic if you do so.



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Re: The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71019 is a reply to message #71002] Sun, 07 February 2016 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interesting concept Timmy.

Here's hoping our Membership rise to the occasion and provide a welcoming dialog on this subject.

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Re: The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71024 is a reply to message #71019] Sun, 07 February 2016 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Jeff" was intact, and very sensitive, so I can assume this was why. He also had/has phimosis. (Un-work-safe image warning.) A wriggling tongue between his glans and foreskin was enough to bring him to a finish, no suction required. His foreskin was also rather thick compared to others I've experienced. As well, and against most opinions, his meatus was rather large and usually open even though his foreskin was ample enough to cover his entire glans and the meatus unless completely erect.
I liked it, and thought it was neat. It worked fine for masturbation and when manipulated by hands other than his own as long as some reasonable care was used. And he had the bonus of simply pulling it tight to create a very strong pleasurable sensation for him that could lead to orgasm if done properly and after some other stimualations.
And BTW, most of the surgical 'remedies' for phimosis are hideous!

[Updated on: Sun, 07 February 2016 08:29]




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Re: The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71029 is a reply to message #71001] Sun, 07 February 2016 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
larkin is currently offline  larkin   United States

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Where I lived in the US as a young person, the vast majority of boys were circumcised at birth.  This was probably due to the large Jewish population in the North Eastern, metropolitan suburbs and the incentive of an added medical charge during the prosperous post war years.  Another reason was that it was thought to prevent or at least postpone masturbation.  
 
The exception was usually for black boys and in my case, it was the mark of illegitimacy. 
 
All the way through high school, I did not see one uncircumcised cock.  I would learn that it was more common out West and in the hinterland.  But not where I lived..
 
I was lured into my first date with a girl who was said to have a reputation.  What a reputation was, I had no idea.  We were in middle school and her parents were not home.
 
She took the initiative.  She rubbed me between my legs and I lay back passively like a big doll.  Apparently she knew what she was doing. She got me to the desired state and then opened my pants.  
 
She recoiled and said, "You're deformed!"
 
I wilted and that was that.
 
It turns out that her "experience" had come from her two brothers who were both, circumscised.  It was my first lesson in what constitutes, normal..
 
True story.       
 
icon14.gif Re: The penis, the orgasm and things  [message #71060 is a reply to message #71001] Wed, 10 February 2016 13:55 Go to previous message
timmy   United Kingdom

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This discussion has now taken root as a page on the site.

Many resource pages start because of questions asked by others.



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