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i don't tihnk hugh/eothain will mind me answering that, yr 7, they were both 11, possibly 10, but i'm sure he told me 11...
btw, if you'd forgotten me, i wouldn't blame you, but i'm the one that introduced eothain to this place, and as far as i know, the first person he told about his "experiance"
i'd like to thank you all for everything you've done for him, he's my best friend, and i'm glad he's able to talk about his life easily now....
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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""within limits... sexual contact with people under 11/12 is definately wrong... but above that there are times and situations where adult child and child child does not harm either party and can be beneficial.. just my thoughts""
The part where you say that "sexual contact with people under 11/12 is definately wrong... but above that there are times and situations where adult child" scares the crud out of me....
There is NO reason, benefit, justification under any circumstances for that line to be crossed... for that trust to be violated....
Never.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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just a thought, BP--I'm not sure that amending civil codes to make them more stringent and punish children who coerce other children into sexual contact is the answer. Children at 11 or 12 aren't going to think about what's in the law when they're attempting to coerce another child...indeed, most of them won't know it's against the law.
Sadly, i know a great many gay men who were coerced into sex at a very young age...most of whom were damaged by the contact and some few who were not (at least they say they weren't). BTW, i'm one of those that believes that Adult/Child sexual contact is never particulary helpful...if one wants to help a child, there are many, many better alternatives to having sex with him or her. If indeed it IS ever helpful, most of the evidence suggests that this is rare enough that it is not sufficent justification for this kind of contact. Adults should have a fiduciary relationship with children, much like the therapeutic relationship i have with my patients.
cheers!
aj
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Eothain
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I'm gonna have to agree with AJ here. XXX, as TBP said, we were both 11 at the time. Infact, he was a few months younger than me, I think, but he was bigger than me, as I was, and still am, quite puny.
Timmy, I had been at that school a year, and on the first day, bewildered and staggered by the sheer size of the school (approximately ten times larger than my old one) as well as the whole regime, the person who I refered to sat down beside me when I was sitting by myself and we became friends. In fact, for that year he was one of my best friends, along with one or two others. In year 7 (keep in mind this is a prep school that goes to year  , he was still my friend up untill this event... What's worse is that he even got my other best friend involved, but luckilly for me, there was only one minor incident with him and I don't think much more happened. Also, we didn't get naked but kinda just slightly pulled down our... Well, you get the idea... And I kinda had a closed childhood in the nudity front anyway. During my first year at that school, I refused to shower (it was one of those big communal showers. Sadly, it wasn't unisex) and I had only just started showering that earlier that year at the fact my friend saying that I really should shower when getting drenched in mud while playing Rugby...The fact that I had just 'opened up', by which I mean started getting used to being naked infront of other people before the event makes it a bit bad, well as if he was waiting for an opprurtune moment and siezed it. I don't think it would have done wonders to my confidence (which nowadays is nigh non-existant)... So for me, the actual act in itself was somewhat of a big deal, at the time at least. Also, I knew it was gay, and thus thought what I was doing was wrong, making it seem even worse, not just the fact that he was kinda forcing me to do it... Yet, to be honest, like you said, the actual feel of the act wasn't THAT bad... So, to make an anology, it's like a muslim kid who's friend bullys him into eating pork when he know it's a sin to eat pork meat, and yet realizing that it doesn't taste that bad... Some bits weren't too great though, like the near oral, and when he fondled me in class. The worst bit was there were loads of other people in the room, and as we were meant to be silent and making a coment or something would draw attention to myself, so I was pretty much powerless to stop him, so I just sat their hoping to God that no-one would notice (luckilly, no-one did).
The way you say it though, it seems pretty illogical for me to still kinda think about it and worry about it and care, and perhaps it is, but I can't help it.
And if I say "Mum, when I was 11 I was abused by a friend. I have some issues from it. I need, I think, to see someone to talk this through with", she may have a heart attack and die due to shock. I'm an introverted person in general, so I'm not really sure if I could tell her even something so simple as that. Still, talking to a real person could be quite nice...
Anyhow, I have archery tommorow (when I'm getting gold medals in the Olympics, you'll miss the chance to say you had Eothain shooting at your club, Yately Archers!), I just hope there's someone my age there, or maybe younger... Also, just out of curiostiy, how did you find out my name?
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Don't underestimate your mum...i bet she's a lot tougher than you think she is.
and to the yately archers club: "Get a clue, ya stupid gits!"
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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timmy
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you use your name quite a lot, my friend, in posts here. Thats;l good because you are comfy.
I expect I was quite close to you today. I would have waved if I'd known. I live near Yately. It might have put you off your aim if a 50 year old tubby bloke had called out your pen name!
Your mother will be a tower of strength. And ought not to mind if you can't tell her. The therapist is in Farnborough, if that helps. And he is good and has no expectation that people will open up until they trust him.
Logic and emotions dont; canceleachother out. We need a strategy for oyu to process and file the old experience in the bin and to move forward. there is a potential for you to get fixed in needing the company of youth. This is ok until you are about 20. After that it raises people's eyebrows.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Eothain
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Oh, I do use my name... I didn't actually realize that. Odd... And I don't think a 50 year old bloke calling out my name would have put me off my aim that much as I kept on hitting the bottom right of the target anyway (or missing). One arrow hit another arrow and bounced off over to the right. Plus, my arm is killing me, bloody fletching... Seems after four years I'm a tad rusty...
However, the thing was there were some kids there which (appart from adding an insult to injury when one got multiple golds/bull's eyes and I only got one) kinda made the situation a tad more... complex. They were 10, 8 and two others about the same age... Ofcourse, it would be quite hard to like talk to as they're so young and yet they were in a group together you know, being boys and friends and such, I think two groups of brothers, and you know how I long to be young again, well as there were so many young kids around it kinda heightened that feeling, as then I could kinda join them and such and fit in... Also, I felt so kinda... out of place, so as if I didn't fit... like an alien... kinda like I didn't belong... And such... Everyone else has someone else, be it friends, brothers, fathers or all three, while I'm all on my own... without a friend or brother or anything. Everyone else was either 10 or under (except for one kid whom I'm guessing was 13 or 12 and was shooting beside me, but meh I was too shy as per usual) or 30 or older... But it was my first time there so perhaps I'll get some friendship... Most probably with that boy whom was shooting next to me...
And you say that cancellor lives in Farnborough? That's the exact place where I live. Interesting... Still, there's the air show tommorow. Hurrah, another chance for me to feel completely alone and alienated, how fun...
Also, I happen to be listening to S Club 7, I never had a dream come true... Quite a good song and somehow I can rellate to it... I'd never thought I'd rellate to an S Club 7 song... Anyhow, I'd better be going to bed as I should be waking up in about 8 hours time... I know I should get rid of the past, but my nostalgia and longing for childhood, though perhaps caused by the event, I'm not sure if that can be process and filed in the bin, even if the memory of the actual event can. But, what do I know? As for people raising their eyebrows, I wouldn't really care what they think... I mean, what's wrong with being friendly with kids? I'm not doing anything sexual with them and never would, so there's nothing illegal about it... Perhaps I'm just being naive...
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Eothain
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Really, it is. Anyhow, the airshow wasn't too bad as such... As good as it can be when you're with your dad, 23 year old sister and her boyfriend. Anyhow, that's not really important... Goddamit, this nostaligia is though. I've been suffering for it, to be truthfull for ages... Since I was 14, I believe, back in year 9... Year bloody damn 9. Why must I have this constant longing for the past? I know it's bloody impossible to go back in time and yet, I have this almost obssession with it. Every time I see someone 12 or under I get a pang in my heart... It's not just longing to be a child, though that makes up a huge amount of it, but also at my old school. Other people I know had been at that school for much longer than me, some not evening going to any other school in their life untill the end of year 8 and their desire is not so great... As I've said before, my dreams often involving being back there, or something rellated to there... Whether this obsession of the past is stemmed from the event or not, I don't know... I don't know much these days... Things just seem so much pleasenter back then... I mean, back then I had friends... And such... And I find it extremely difficult to make friends outside of school or even outside of my year... Now I don't suppose a single person outside of my family would care if I killed myself... Seriously, what's the point? Why bother going on through all this pain and heart ache and nostalgia? There's about three things I live for at the moment: Rome: Total War, the extended edition of the Return of the King and seeing Steve again and hopefully befriending him... Yet all of those three, two are unimportant materialistic possessions, and one is a forlong hope... And what happens when I get RTW and ROTK and my hope is dashed into a million tiny fragments? What reason will I have for living? I'm a stupid, ugly, fool who won't amount to anything and I'm just a waste of oxygen and water... Also, I have no confidence or self-esteem. At least I can admit that. *sigh* I just wish I could turn back the clock so much! Not just for changing certain events, but just to experience the best days of my life (mostly, minus one or two incidents). *cries*
Final note: If you have any comments or whatever regarding this post that you want private, PLEASE don't send them to the e-mail address I used to register with. Send them instead to hughfranklin1999@hotmail.com
Also, I'm not going to commit sucide... Yet. I'm too cowardly too, you see... So I'll probably be around for a while yet.
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Eothain, I've already written privately, but I want to reiterate something I said: You are WAY too good to lose. Don't give up on yourself, on your life, your hopes of connection. It WILL happen. Keep in touch. d
"Remember what the Dormouse said:
"Feed your head; feed your head."
--Jefferson Airplane - WHITE RABBIT
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timmy
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The whole problem with being a teenager is that the world is restricted to being a teenager. Good things in the past are huge and wonderful and current problems are huge and awful. And you are also waiting for GCSE results on about 24 August, and that seems like a millstone as well.
So, some adult (!) is goingto say to you "Get over it!" or something similar. And, while that is what you have to do, it's entirely unhelpful to hear it. In fact it's counter-productive.
Let's start with friends:
You or your family has a boat. Go sail at weekends, with or without the boat (I mean offer to crew for someoene else!) and actively pursue talking to people. I don't mean "Be my friend" talk, I mean just talking.
The archery. Just go do it. And ask someone better than you for help!
Nostalgia:
Hugh, I have lived in the past for most of my adult life. I wanted to be 15 all the time with the boy I adored at my side, at school again and in his arms and with him in my arms. Every time I hurt I used to run to my "safe place" and be "with him" in my head. It took me until I was 48 years old to get to be able to junk that. And I still get flashbacks sometimes when I'm stressed.
It is not a good place to be. And it was so MANY wasted years. And I lost so much time and love and everything else.
So, you need a strategy to make new contacts, some of whom will be friends. And a strategy to enjoy the nostalgia and to make it less and less important.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Eothain, i'm sending you a private note, but for here and now, don't lose hope, pal. Life is not always going to be as bad as it is today, i promise. When i was your age, it was hard for me too. But slowly, life got better, and then it got worse but not quite as bad as it was before, and then it got bettter, and then it swung back to worse again...but the overall trend was toward better.
Right. i'm going to stop now and send you a note.
cheers!
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Eothain
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Thanks for all your e-mails. Your support and kindness is much appriciated. I'm sorry if I sound like some kind of attention seeker but that sincrely isn't my name. If I don't respond to your e-mails, it's not because I haven't read them, or don't appriciate them, but because I don't know what to say and/or there's too much to say, if you get my meaning. However, I'm always on MSN messenger and I've added several of you to my contact list, not knowing if you have messenger...
Anyhow, in what looks to be my shortest post yet, I don't really have too much to say. Except, I'm not very good at making friends anyway (mainly in response to Timmy's post) as I'm incredibly shy and I have absolutely no confidence... And I'm not very good at faking it. Even online I'm somewhat shy with some people... Also, I have archery tommorow which I'm kind of dreading as having a ten year old being about five times better than you isn't exactly great one's morale and self-esteem. Also, it's not too fun being the loner... Oh well, what's the worst that could happen? Never know, fortune might be with me...
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Now I don't suppose a single person outside of my family would care if I killed myself... Seriously, what's the point?
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i care, god alone knows how much you mean to me eothain, don't turn your back on oyur friends, we may not be able to stand bedside you every day, but i'll always be here if you want to talk, and if you need me, i'll come running.
your feelimgs for me may not be as strong as i might dream, may not be as strong as mine are for you, but i will never desert you my friend, my love
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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Now I don't suppose a single person outside of my family would care if I killed myself... Seriously, what's the point?
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i care, god alone knows how much you mean to me eothain, don't turn your back on oyur friends, we may not be able to stand bedside you every day, but i'll always be here if you want to talk, and if you need me, i'll come running.
your feelimgs for me may not be as strong as i might dream, may not be as strong as mine are for you, but i will never desert you my friend, my love
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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marc
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm........
Interesting.......
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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isn't it?
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Interesting that an 18 year old feel for a 16 year old (within the UK age of consent) who didn't return his feelings but that they share a close friendship now? I guess that could be called interesting.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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marc
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I was led to believe that the youingster involved in all this was fourteen years old.
If I was misinformed and the child is indeed of legal age then by all means go for it... Albeit the young person might be even more harmed by the assault...
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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saben
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These are two different situations here. From what I understand the Black Prince previously developed feelings for Eothain. Now he has a new friend that he feels towards that is 14.
I don't see how you can use age of consent as a means of judging morals or ethics. Age of consent varies greatly from place to place, it is 13 in Japan, 14 in Germany, 15 in Thailand, 16 in the UK, 18 is the US. From what I understand and my own observations a 13 year old in the US is no less capable of dealing with sex than a 13 year old Japanese boy or girl. Yet from your point of view it sounds as though it would be ethically "right" for me to have sex with a 13 year old in Japan, but not in the USA. What makes it different? To me ethics are supposed to transcend law, decisions should be based on law, but ethics shouldn't be, ethics are your own personal values outside of what society finds acceptable. This is an ethical discussion, not a legal one.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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marc
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First: If this "person" is not the origional love interest in this particular thread then why is it comtained in this thread? This entire situation is getting just a bit too obscure... and the more so as it drags on and on....
This person calling himself "the black prince" is out to find a child to lure into sex... I find that notion a bit sickening... It should be making any person that has a bit of consideration for the welbeing of innocent children sick.... The fact that there are many out there as well as here that encourage these situations makes it all the sicker...
Second: If you don't see how I can use the age of concent as it relates to intergenerational relationships then I suggest you refer to the law.
Albeit there is no global standard reguarding age of concent one therefore HAS to abide and conform to the LOCAL standards as prescribed to the law within the jurisdiction they are located.
That is the legal view.....
On a personal level..... I believe that relationships that lead or entice children (people under the age of 16) to engage in sexual encounters with adults (people over the age of 18) and an excess of years in between these ages is sick! There is no excuse! There is no justification! And.. I believe that the only people that would advocate such a relationship are not one iota better then the child rapists they are encouraging and/or protecting. Persons that use (misguided) ethics to persuade the notion that relationships between children and adults are right are no better...
There is a special hell for those that cross this line and I avidly pray that all.... each and every one of them burn there as soon as possible and for all time to come....
The previous is my opinion....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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The erant emoticon was suposed to read.......
(people over the age of *eighteen* and an excess
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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The primary imperative in most ethical systems that i am familiar with is "do no harm." Secondary to that is "Do good whenever you can."
Of course legality is an ethical issue. When one knowingly breaks a law, there is a very specific way of doing so, with a very specific goal in mind, if it is to be considered an ethical choice. It only pertains in cases where many people are being denied their rights by a law and the person who breaks that law is doing so with the goal of getting that law changed through forcing a confrontation over it. The person who commits this act must be willing to accept the consequences of his act under the existing law. if these conditions are not met, then breaking the law is an unethical act, because it harms the rule of law, which effects every person living in that society negatively.
I know this seems quite far afield for this particular thread, and poor eothain is probably wondering what the hell this has to do with his search for a friend, and the answer is...nothing. Sorry. But i felt that Saben's point needed a reply.
The issue surrounding age of consent, obviously, is "how old must a child be before they can give informed consent to having sex with an adult." The point is to avoid coercion on the part of the child. Can a 13 year old in Japan agree to sex with an adult without being coerced? I don't know. I don't live in Japan, and i don't know what the culture they are raised in tells them about sex, or how they are prepared for it. In the culture i live in, i know that sex at that age with an adult can be extremely damaging. That's not conjecture--i've worked for DCFS (Div. of Child Protective Services) before and seen the aftermath enough times to last the rest of my life.
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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marc
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Not far afield at all.... If it serves as an enlightment to the boy as to the inclinations of a stalker who by self proclaimation desires and is willing to persue intimate relations with minors then it is a definate asset to this thread.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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i think eothain knows me better than you do
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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marc
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Perhaps.... perhaps not....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Hey Eothain, just thought i'd find out how your doing.
Wether you believe it or not i care how your doing. Talk to you soon.
Pyro.
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Eothain
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I went to my old school's website today... It was actually just to see which teachers I knew were still there (only one of them, btw) and I was looking at the time table for a year 8 class. It seems everything that gave the school it's personality... it's soul... it's uniqueness has either been removed or reduced... Firstly, sport is now only twice a week (or maybe three times, depends what they define 'sport options' as) and before it was five times a week. The weekly lectures on a Wednesday have apparently been removed. These would be a fun thing (oh look, there's a wasp on my computer monitor...) which would basically involve some person coming to talk to us about something. Usually they'd be quite good though they only happened during the Christmas term... Saturday school has been removed (which isn't really a bad thing... it was fun but on a saturday... yet still, the memories of it...) and school ends at 5pm on a Friday instead of the usual time of 7:30. There's now no reading on a Wednesday afternoon and acitivites on a Wednesday... All these might seem minor but to me, it seems like the whole school has changed... I know it's inevitable but still... All but one of the teachers I know have left (and that one was my least favorite: The sadistic and very scary sports teacher) and it also occured to me that every single person I knew there has left... And I knew people and were friends with people in year 7, year 6 and year 5 when I was in year 8... And now they've all passed on to who knows where (none of them have gone to my school, I think)... Every relic of my past is either destroyed or has been eroded away... The only things I have to remember the past are three small magazines (not even in colour), my CE results (I screwed up English and physics), the year book, and one or two bits of paper with doodles I did during my time there... I feel like time's marched foward and I've been left behind back in 1999-2001 even though it's 2004... Everything's changed... yet still my thoughts linger to the past... *sigh* I can't go on like this, I really can't! I know I should just leave the past where it belongs, in the past, knowing full well that there's nothing I can do to relive it, but I just CAN'T! I can't... Something that's so strong can't be so lightly thrown aside... It's like telling me to throw away... I dunno... Something really, really important. Like a parent throwing away their child... I dunno, I don't want to sound offensive or anything... Well, I dunno... *sigh* I know how pathetic this must sound... Sorry.
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Eothain
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Just a minor update. Got my GCSE results a week ago yesturday. Somewhat suprising. A double A* in Science, an A* in history, an A in geography, and Bs in German, English lit, English Lang, Ceramics and Maths.
How on earth did I get a double A* in science?!  ??
Also, archery's improving quite a bit. I can now hit a bull's eye at 40 yards! Not regularly but occassionally! Going in a competetion on Sunday which could be interesting (or most likely humilating)...
And the summer hols are drawing to a close. So finally I'll be able to see Steve again. Though I'm not sure I want to. In the way of Sam's quote "And sometimes you didn't want to know the end, because how could the ending be happy?" Nostalgia still going strong though. I've been without the internet without a week so I've had plenty of time to think about the past. Mainly how much I long for it. Which has lead me to some pretty drastic actions...
Anyhow, just a minor update. Probably not that interesting but maybe someone will appriciate it.
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A marvellous set of results. And good to hear that the archery is coming along well too.
So... you're going to be a sixth former now (is it still called that?). Good luck with the new term. 
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Hey eothain--
thanks for the update and 'huzzah!' on your marks! Nice work, buddy!
curious about the 'drastic actions'...
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Eothain
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Location: Rohan!
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Thanks for your congrats. They're much appricaited!
Nick: Yeah, I am going into the sixth form. Should be fun... Or scary. Still, I'll get to be a mentor to year 7s which could be an interesting experience.
AJ: The drastic actions... Well, I'm not sure if I should go into specific details, but let's just say it involves a razor and a lot of care.
Anyhow, I'm in an archery tournement tommorow and extremely nervous. Yes... Oh well, so long as I don't come last! Should be fun, hopefully. Just hope I have my sight adjusted to the right point otherwise my arrows will be going either too high or too low. I may provide pictures if a camera is taken. Anyhow, good night, y'all!
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Way to Go, Eothain! You're obviously doing a whole bunch of things right to get those excellent grades and to be so proficient with a bow so soon. Sighting in is often tricky, isn't it? Windage, distance, bow flexure -- my Grandfather was good at it and showed me a few times, but I was lucky to hit the target, let alone the bull's-eye. And -- PLEASE! -- be very careful with that razor -- no blood. Very hard to clean up. Seriously, be good to yourself. Like a lot of things, if you believe it's true, it becomes true. Henry Ford was quoted as saying: "If you think you can, or if you think you can't -- you're right." d
"Remember what the Dormouse said:
"Feed your head; feed your head."
--Jefferson Airplane - WHITE RABBIT
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I'm hoping you're telling me you had an ugly case of razorburn after attempting to shave your pubes, otherwise i'm going to have to personally go to the UK and beat you.... ) Razors are for shaving, nothing else.
cheers!
aj
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Eothain
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Location: Rohan!
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Nah, I didn't get any razorburn. And my attempt was sucessful, though somewhat of a mixed feeling. Yes, it looks sort of like an 11 year old but on the other hand, it's not genuine, just an illusion.
As for the archery tournement, I somehow managed to come first! I recieved a nice trophy and golden medal!  However, it was quite close. The person in second was quite good.
Anyhow, here's some pics for your enjoyment:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/neo222/HUGHATARCHERY013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/neo222/HUGHATARCHERY025.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/neo222/HUGHATARCHERY044.jpg (that arrow looks as though it's going to miss horribly!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v189/neo222/HUGHATARCHERY060.jpg
At the target there, on the far left barely visable is a kid (whom happens to be 11) called Matthew. Infront of him (from the camera's point of view) is his 13 year old brother Steven. The person in the middle is called Andrew (and I don't have a clue of his age but he does scare me quite a bit). And ofcourse there's me on the right!
The best part about the whole competition though, even more so than the actual winning, was the whole kinda growing friendship with Matthew and Steven. They're a nice pair, and I really want to get to know them well. But it's good as we're getting quite close. At least I think so, but I do have insane delusions as you might have gathered by now.
Oh, and here's my trophy:
http://www.totalwarcenter.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=155181
And medal:
http://www.totalwarcenter.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=155187
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eothain--Yeehhaaaa! congrats on your win...and i'm so pleased your making friends and having fun.
Your forebears would be proud. the english yeoman archers were quite decisive in a number of battles with the french--Agincourt is a good example. The english arrows punched through french plate armor quite handily and was absolutely devastating. It spelled the end of the superiority of the mounted knight in battle at the time.
Congrats again!
cheers!
aj
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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timmy
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This one has got unreadable. So I'm going to do you a favour and lock it to make a new thread MANDATORY
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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