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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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What IS prohibited is rudeness. I am not at all keen on it. Schoolyard behaviour is unwelcome. You are exhibiting that behaviour and need to stop if your posts are to remain in any way welcome here. People do not answer your posts mostly because of your behaviour. I also have stopped doing so, now.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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I am not exhibiting anything that was not shown me first.
Neither have I been rude nor out of hand in any of this discourse.
I have however been trying to gather some information that was ever sidestepped and clouded with "gay/sex/orientation" issues when my question never entailed any of these characteristics.
I tried to keep questions succinct and as to the point as I could make them altering them to continue the discourse.
I did this politely...
You were first to tender the first slur... "so use logic and common sense here." I presented my questions logically and with a great degree of common sense. I take great offense at your comment that I didn't!
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I don't think that a person can be faulted for giving advice to a minor even when it is drastically diffrent from their parents belief. Regardless of the advice given the minor must take the advice and make it his/her own.
Just becuase someone talks the talk doesn't mean the kid is a. going to believe them b. give a damn what they say. c. have the balls to follow through with whatever the online friend tells them to do.
Being a kid i can say with absolute certainty that just becuase you ask for advice doenst mean that it is followed through with. NOr does it necessarily mean that the kid will TELL his parents where the advice came from.
Sometimes you need to hear every side of an issue good and bad before a kid can make up there mind about what is true.
For sure, jsut becuase an adult says it doesn't mean a kid gives a damn.
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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I reply to myself... This whole post really does beg what did you do? And who did you do it to? Because for real in the US what gets prosecuted and how far it is taken is dependent on who is prosecuting and how pissed they are at you? If the people don't care, then they wont persue it. IF the parents are vengeful, well then you may be screwed. I don't think there are any laws that can save someone from a good lawyer and a PO'ed parent.
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13806
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What woudl you say, Andy, to a parent who tried to prevent their kid hearing even very bad advice? Not advice to commit illegal acts, but just plain bad.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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What woudl I say to a parent trying to prevent there kid from hearing bad advice?
I would say HA! NO chance in hell, if the kid wishes to hear it no matter how bad, how hurtful, how painful, how demeaning the kid will hear it end of story.
My parents tried to prevent me from hearing lots of bad things over the years and I'm 17 now and I will tell you I have heard just about all of it. I am sure my mother would die if she knew what I had heard. Going to a public school and having unrestricted access to the internet, I have for sure heard it all. So I would say:
"When your kid hears it, make sure your there to put them back together when they fall kids gonna do whatever he wants, A parents true job is to constantly rebuild the kid and keep them whole and as safe as they can reasnobly do"
The end
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Ok good....
But can we leave the good or the bad out of the equasion?
I never mentioned any scale of appropriatness (SP) for the advice given, meerly that the parent does not want his/her child to be a party to the knowledge of it... for whatever reason...
I know and understand the Andy's point of view in that a youth will indeed listen to what they want, when they want... And personally I somewhat agree.
It is the point of view of the parent that I am wishing to learn about... and what recourse there is.... if indeed any.
On a personal note...
I am not trying to be combative or obtuse here... I was posed with a question and thought I could come up with an answer here.
If it is a problem that ideas are "tweeked" as a conversation progresses then I am sorry. I was always of the opinion that discourse entails some degree of progression before a conclusion is reached.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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