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Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26056 is a reply to message #26051] Wed, 07 September 2005 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Whatever happened to the question of personal responsibility?

We don't need to evacuate people from the beaches in case they drown, or from tall buildings in case they fall off; if they are silly enough to hurt themselves, that's their own problem.

Just get them to sign a waiver, stating "I hereby relinquish all of my rights to be kept alive by the state. Just leave me alone."

Or does the government believe that people are too stupid to understand?
Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26057 is a reply to message #26056] Wed, 07 September 2005 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The evacuation is stated to be mandatory. No waivers. No "ok you can stay". mandated with force if all else fails.



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Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26058 is a reply to message #26057] Wed, 07 September 2005 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4221310.stm This article shows the mandatory nature



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Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26061 is a reply to message #26057] Wed, 07 September 2005 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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I know that it is mandatory.

What I wanted to know is why it is mandatory. If people want to stay, they should be allowed to, even if it is tantamount to suicide.

For example, there's a blog, http://mgno.com/, belonging to a network administrator who has been continuing to live and work in a network data center in New Orleans, entirely by choice. Why shouldn't he be allowed to stay if he wants to?

Actually, I have just thought of a possible "reason" that people couldn't be trusted to stay: potential looting and destruction of other people's property. Though this is only a problem if you assume that everyone is dishonest.

Hmm. Well, it's not my problem. I guess the US government has everyone's best interests at heart. (cough)
Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26062 is a reply to message #26051] Thu, 08 September 2005 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Seeing that total evacuation is the word of the day....

Would it not be practical to voluntarily leave by whatever means at hand with the pets in tow..... rather than being dragged out by ones heals without them?



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Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26063 is a reply to message #26057] Thu, 08 September 2005 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
E.J. is currently offline  E.J.

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This from the Associated Press:
".....As of midday, there were no reports of anyone being removed by force. And it was not clear how the order would be carried out.

Active-military troops said they had no plans to use force. National Guard officers said they do not take orders from the mayor. And even the police said they were not ready to use force just yet. It appeared that the mere threat of force would be the first option.

"We have thousands of people who want to voluntarily evacuate at this time," Police Chief Eddie Compass said. "Once they are all out, then we'll concentrate our forces on mandatory evacuation......"

The Army has also said that they would not keep food and water from being delivered to the holdouts, so manditory isn't MANDITORY yet.



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Re: How does one mandatorily evacuate the rest?  [message #26067 is a reply to message #26063] Thu, 08 September 2005 08:21 Go to previous message
timmy

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UK press has quoted a New Orleans official as saying "We will use cuffs if necessary"



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