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Re: Ice box  [message #29634 is a reply to message #29631] Fri, 17 March 2006 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Midwestern slang for the whole refrigerator

Oh, right. Well, even though I didn't get it quite right in my list of possibilities, I did answer the question in my final paragraph.

David

P.S. These two sentences have been weighing on my mind:
>The big ones are a bit ostentatious, like nasty, wasteful American cars. The British prefer understatement.
As a true pedant, I felt I ought to explain that my use of the forceful words "nasty" and "wasteful" is not hypocrisy, as I didn't say that one shouldn't use them. However, on reflection I should have used some faintly ironic words, or a modifier such as "somewhat", to illustrate the point raised in the second sentence.
And a damned good one!  [message #29635 is a reply to message #29632] Fri, 17 March 2006 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Ice box  [message #29636 is a reply to message #29625] Fri, 17 March 2006 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Come on fess up. Your just cheap



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Re: Ice box  [message #29637 is a reply to message #29621] Fri, 17 March 2006 16:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IM in school. Im one of those kids who can get around the monitor and bypass the net nanny. Course one of these days I will get caught and the worst thing that will happen is teach will say "Now Now Brian, smart boys like you are supposed to set and example, not do bad things like this". Then Ill just go back to doing what I was doing befor.;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D



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Ostentatious!  [message #29639 is a reply to message #29634] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You should see a new American kitchen! My whole first appartment would fit in today's kitchens.

2 sinks (one prep just for veggies)
2 dishwashers (no longer emptied into shelves and then re-loaded. Out of one clean and back into the other)
computer desk/nerve centre
sound system
fireplace

and no one really cooks anything, the microwave is everything.

Go figure!



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Re: Ice box  [message #29640 is a reply to message #29624] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Americans like the big freezers so they can put in a whole cow or a few deer. And if the Rolls Roice and Bently arnt rather large and ostentatious, and wastful, I dont know what is.

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Re: Ostentatious!  [message #29641 is a reply to message #29639] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Excuse me!!!!! I cook and Im darn good at it too.;-D



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Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29642 is a reply to message #29637] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but aren't you there to receive the wisdom of the ages (as gleaned from the under paid and over worked noble souls who think that they can teach) can you do that and this?

There are all sorts of reasons to learn, but the most important is so that you understand my classical illusions and obscure references!

Now get back to work!

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AGAs  [message #29643 is a reply to message #29639] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A fireplace in a new American kitchen? That's interesting. A real, coal-or-wood fireplace? Or some sort of stove?

It seems a bit counter-intuitive having a whole spare sink for vegetables if most stuff is microwaved. They'll never taste any good if you microwave them.

Apart from dishwashers and the technology, it sounds like it could be a description of a big, old-fashioned English kitchen.

In the British countryside, one thing that is almost ubiquitous in medium-to-large houses is an AGA. Techically, they're Swedish, but they have been very much adopted by the English (and Scottish, Welsh and Irish? I don't know, to be honest). They are big, always-lit stoves with built-in hotplates and preheated ovens. They are wonderfully easy to use, since they are never switched off: you just bung the food into one of the ovens. Usually they run on oil, gas or coal, though there are electric versions (those ones are a huge waste of electricity, I always think). Not only do they cook your food, but they can also heat water and much of the house if necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGA_cooker
FOOD food food food......  [message #29645 is a reply to message #29639] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My kitchen is a full 6 feet wide and 12 feet long...... I do have a dishwasher, a roll-a-way in fact (found at a yard sale for $40.00) a 4 burner gas range and oven, the sink of course, and a small microwave (used ONLY for potatoes) and a fiar sized fridge.

I live to cook and have a wonderful assortment of cookware as well as small appliances and about every kitchen gadget known to man.

Add into the mix a collection of some 6000 cookbooks gathered from around the world (kept in a specially built library)....

All this with only 8 square feet of counter space to prep and prepare.

Not all kitchens are HUGE.... but we make do with what we got.



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Re: Ice box  [message #29646 is a reply to message #29636] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To a certain extent, you're right.

The UK is cold and old houses are not terribly well insulated (big sash windows, no double glazing, no special insulation). Often any central heating is old and inefficient. So they are very expensive to heat.

It is also because of the British tradition, however. We do tend to put up with things (the "stiff upper lip") where other nationalities would be screaming blue murder.
Re: AGAs  [message #29647 is a reply to message #29643] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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our ice boxes are small because we would only keep ice for drinks in it.
most people in the u.k. have fridge freezers and the american style fridge freezer is becoming more common.

but you must realise the british dont eat as much as americans that is why we are more petite. i.e. leaner.!!!!Sad)
Re: Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29648 is a reply to message #29642] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>classical illusions and obscure references!

Classical allusions.

Unless that itself is an obscure reference... Smile
I'm sure you are  [message #29649 is a reply to message #29641] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd love to taste some of your cooking one day, Brian. Smile

Maybe I'm saying that as I've just realised I've missed tea-time and will now have to wait until supper-time before I can have something to eat. How you Americans can cope without proper English tea (and cakes) is beyond me!
Re: Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29651 is a reply to message #29648] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But it was spelled right!



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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29653 is a reply to message #29642] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am working.....Im the one who shows the teacher how to operate these puters.;-D



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Re: Ostentatious!  [message #29654 is a reply to message #29641] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This was a general not particular comment. In general, wouldn't you agree?



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I think that as the price of energy continues to rise  [message #29655 is a reply to message #29643] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you'll start to see some on/off swithces. Great technology!



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Re: I'm sure you are  [message #29656 is a reply to message #29649] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We open our oversized fridge and dig em out and pop um in the microwave

Any ole time we want!

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Rolls Royce and Bentley  [message #29657 is a reply to message #29640] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>if the Rolls Roice and Bently arnt rather large and ostentatious, and wastful, I dont know what is.

Absolutely! But neither of them are British-controlled any more. Both are now owned by Volkswagen, and the Rolls-Royce name has been taken over by BMW. And, what Americans don't realise (on the whole) is that both are considered rather naff by the British themselves. Especially the Bentley, which is a far-too-expensive car for the nouveau riche and foreign market.

(Also note that, historically speaking, there were many Rolls-Royce and Bentley cars that were not ostentatious: they were built for specific purposes, not just to show off. The original Bentleys were built for racing; and both were very good, solid pieces of British engineering and technology. But brands change, unfortunately. The older cars are still very highly prized.)

Unless, of course, when you say Rolls-Royce, you're talking about the aero engines -- which have to be be big, because they drive the 747 and the the Airbus A380 "superjumbo", and are one of the last remaining jewels of British engineering.
Re: Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29658 is a reply to message #29653] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Allusions vs. illusions  [message #29659 is a reply to message #29651] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>But it was spelled right!

Exactly! It's one of the hazards of using a spell-checker. I don't know if you did or not, but it would never pick up a mistake like that.

There are two words: "allusion" and "illusion". And they mean different things.

David
Re: Rolls Royce and Bentley  [message #29660 is a reply to message #29657] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and with all that I still love you;-D ;-D ;-D



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Re: I'm sure you are  [message #29661 is a reply to message #29656] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Microwaved tea... eurgh!

We've been through this before, I think, a few weeks back. The merits of real tea, and American "iced tea" (or "sweet tea" -- still not much idea of the difference).
Re: Rolls Royce and Bentley  [message #29662 is a reply to message #29657] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, pretty soon all the cars are gonna be owned byt the Germans or the Japanese.



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Re: I think that as the price of energy continues to rise  [message #29663 is a reply to message #29655] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>you'll start to see some on/off swithces. Great technology!

Not on AGAs, you won't. (Well, actually, they already have them -- people often turn them off during the summer. But often not. And they take hours and hours to warm up, anyway, so you can't turn them on just for one meal. It's not the point.)

The point of an AGA is that it helps heat your home during autumn, winter and spring. And it's always there and ready.

If it sounds like an extravagance, it's no more one than having the central heating on -- and if you've got an AGA, you often don't need it on at all, because you've got the AGA.

Great place to dry clothes, too.
Re: Allusions vs. illusions  [message #29664 is a reply to message #29659] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings-

After yesterday's string, of course I ran a check. And I DO know the difference in the meanings, but I can't see the difference once it gets to paper.

I actually have two languages, the one i think and speak, and another that attempts to accommodate my dyslexia whenever I have to put thoughts to paper. In the old days I used dictation exclusively. My secretary was the very last one the company let go of in the late eighties.

I'm waiting for telepathy!

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Re: Rolls Royce and Bentley  [message #29665 is a reply to message #29660] Fri, 17 March 2006 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, you are sweet, Brian. Unless you're being sarcastic. Smile

Hmm...

If you're thinking of buying a British car, try an Aston Martin. Or a McLaren F1. (Now, they are ostentatious. But also pretty much the fastest road-worthy car you'll find anywhere. 241 miles an hour.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_F1

P.S. Don't buy a Citroen. I have a Citroen Saxo. And the engineering is all dodgy and French.

P.P.S. Do you even get Citroen in America?
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Oops, make that 240 MPH for the McLaren.
Re: I'm sure you are  [message #29667 is a reply to message #29661] Fri, 17 March 2006 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once the water is brought to a boil - what effect does the method have on the infussion of the tea?

You wouldn't call the stuff that manufactured for resturant consumption 'tea' at all - hot, cold, sweetened, or spiced with fake lemon!!

I did bring some things back with me. I use my infusser and bulk teas often, and make a mean scone.

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Re: Correct me if I'm wrong  [message #29670 is a reply to message #29658] Fri, 17 March 2006 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My next class is programming. I can write a program in hexa- decimal and drive the teachers nuts. they stick a disk in and fire up CC+ and think they are real programers. ohhhhhhhhhhh, im impressed. I actually created an encrytion program that uses my own algorythem (I call it matrix ;-D ). The teaches here have been trying to break the code for over 2 months, and aint done it yet.



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Re: Rolls Royce and Bentley  [message #29671 is a reply to message #29665] Fri, 17 March 2006 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im never sarcastic. ;-D

I have actually seen a Citroen. I was so shocked I just had to know what it was. Reminded me of a dead frog in the road. Sorry, dont mean to insult your car, but gee, they arnt built for beauty.

Wanna know what I want. I want a PT Cruiser. Thye are just so cool.;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D



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Re: Why aren't you working on the enigma code?  [message #29673 is a reply to message #29670] Fri, 17 March 2006 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Whip!

They have been working on that since 1941, and day before yesterday they announced that M4 had 2 of the 3 codes broken, now that last one is giving them a 'bit of a go'

Tell me about school, I am about 40 years out of touch and my oldest pseudo-grandson (how DO you refer to the son of a foster son?? He is not my foster grand-son, that would imply I was fostering him, which I'm not) is having his twelfth birthday Saturday next, so I know all about junior high. Still as bad as I remember.

What is your class load, what do ya like, plans?

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Before refrigerators were called refrigerators they were called Ice Box’s. a
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Usually natural gas. Illusion (used correctly this time?) without benifet of heat. Some people have the fire lit while running the air conditioner on a July evening

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Wanna trade Recipes?  [message #29684 is a reply to message #29641] Fri, 17 March 2006 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guarenteed to taste better than trading spit!

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>I have actually seen a Citroen. I was so shocked I just had to know what it was. Reminded me of a dead frog in the road.


Eh? I knew they had dodgy French engineering, but my car doesn't really look very different from any other small hatchback Peugeot or Volvo or Ford. What sort of Citroen was it? They make lots of different types, you know.

The picture is of a similar car to mine, except mine is white. The picture looks a little bit squashed to me, but you get the idea. I don't see anything dead-froggish about it, thank you very much!

Incidentally, what is a PT Cruiser? [Looks it up.] Oh, a Chrysler. We don't get many of those over here. Good Lord -- they don't look like cars at all. They look like heavy, round-edged tractors. Whatever happend to fuel economy? (I feel licensed to insult your cars now you've insulted mine!)
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Surely will taste better than trading spit

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This didn't turn up where I expected. The first time I thought it had failed to post, and so I re-submitted.

Sent as a reply to Brian

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Simon:
>what effect does the method have on the infussion of the tea?

Not sure what you mean. A lot of things can change the taste of the humble cup of hot English tea:

- the temperature of the water (very dependent on the altitude; you can't make a good cup of tea up a mountain, as water boils at a lower temperature),
- the temperature of the pot,
- the hardness of the water,
- the type of tea,
- whether the tea is in a bag or loose,
- how long you brew it for,
- whether you stir it or not,
- how much milk you add (if any),
- the type of milk,
- the temperature of the milk,
- the amount of lemon juice you add (if any -- I've never tried it, to be honest),
- the temperature of the cup,
- whether you add the milk to the cup before or after the tea (it makes a difference, allegedly),
- whether you add sugar (ugh) and how much,
- how long you leave it before drinking it (as soon as possible is best -- tea urns are usually dreadful),
- your own taste buds,
- and what you eat with it.

And so far, all I'm talking about is bog-standard tea (Indian or China), not special herbal or fruit infusions.

David
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