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So go commando and avoid the issue!  [message #31726 is a reply to message #31645] Wed, 03 May 2006 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: So go commando and avoid the issue!  [message #31727 is a reply to message #31726] Wed, 03 May 2006 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know some guys on line who say they dont wear underware. The first thing that pops in my mind is Whore. They do it cause they can get nakid faster, turn their trick and get to the next one. It means they want it to be quick and fast so they can leave. If that isnt being a whore I dont know what is. Not to mention that it has the appearance of being unsanitary.



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Skin is skin  [message #31729 is a reply to message #31727] Wed, 03 May 2006 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it is clean, an extra layer of cotton hardly makes a difference. I was thinking fashion statement - not sexual. Do you have the same reaction to a girl going bra-less?

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Re: Skin is skin  [message #31731 is a reply to message #31729] Wed, 03 May 2006 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd agree with that - if I have the kind of day when I have a shower and get changed for the evening (like I used to every weekday when I was still working: nowadays its usually just if I've been doing something messy like gardening or decorating) I very rarely bother with anything under my Levis. Its about comfort more than anything else - jeans that fit tight don't need anything extra under them.

For me, going commando is certainly not about being ready for sex: my last LTR of a dozen years was physically affectionate but didn't involve sex, and I've only recently felt ready to even think seriously about starting dating again ... it's well over a decade (though less than two decades) since I last had sex! Oh, I've had offers (a few), but one-nighters just aren't my thing.

As for being a whore, well, I've paid for sex once, and been paid for it once - both of these were in my experimental phase as a teen over thirty years ago. Having tried it both ways, I know it isn't for me ... no regrets, but no desire to repeat either experience!



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icon12.gif So pedantic about a pendantic issue...  [message #31732 is a reply to message #31727] Wed, 03 May 2006 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Brian!

Wow! you are SOO techical about a subject so close to the romantic parts.. male mind at work - "do not disturb" (hehehe, joking)

Fella, where's your sense of adventure??

Going w/o undies feels cool & is fun!..sorta like going naked cept with pants on..! guess u never tried it..huh?? yeah jeans r a little rough..but hey u might like it if u try it..!!

teeheehee!!

Ah hum.. regaining proper dignity & decorum here..

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Re: So go commando and avoid the issue!  [message #31734 is a reply to message #31727] Thu, 04 May 2006 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, most often it is a matter of economics rather than whoring out for a nights fun.

And......... It's only unsanitary if you do not wash your jeans....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon13.gif Yeuk!  [message #31738 is a reply to message #31727] Thu, 04 May 2006 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always found the discovery that a partner wasn't wearing underwear was a serious turn-off.

To me, satisfying sex was always the culmination of a prolonged period of romantic intimacy. I WANTED to undress my partner item by item, and underwear was the most erotic item of all. There is something extra-special about sliding a hand under the elastic and exploring the treasures within.

And it IS more hygenic unless you wash your jeans daily!



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Re: Yeuk!  [message #31740 is a reply to message #31738] Thu, 04 May 2006 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cossie wrote:
> I always found the discovery that a partner wasn't wearing underwear was a serious turn-off.
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To me, not as much as a turn-off as some kinds of underwear! I'm thinking of one set in particular ... a well-known manufacturer of theatre lighting boards, grandMA, were one of the first companies to release boards with pop-up display screens. After the first production run, it became clear that no-one could figure out that these displays popped up and swiveled so they were easy to read. So the next production run was stencilled with the instruction "PUSH TO ERECT" ... once the company realised that this had turned into a major joke among techie-types they actually produced promotional boxerbriefs bearing this printed over the pouch area.. My sort-of-ex used to wear these round the flat ... somehow, although the fit was good, I think the ... crassness ... of the logo made them among the least erotic underwear I've ever seen. And yes, I do have a pair of these, which I've never worn.



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Re: Yeuk!  [message #31741 is a reply to message #31738] Thu, 04 May 2006 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True as that all is......

In the world of rent boys romance in an alley is rarely a part of the equasion.......

Get to it, get paid and move on to the next trick..... Twelve to fifteen turns around the post per night doesnt allow for alot if sweet talk and cuddling.

To dally about taunted a night in the toombs.....

Not at all something a sixteen year old would ever look forward to.....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Yeuk!  [message #31749 is a reply to message #31738] Thu, 04 May 2006 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I ever meet the right person and I find out he doesnt wear underware, it will be over befor it ever got started.



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It will have had to get started - or you wouldn't know!  [message #31750 is a reply to message #31749] Thu, 04 May 2006 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Yeuk!  [message #31752 is a reply to message #31749] Thu, 04 May 2006 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, like the old saying goes.... different strokes, different folks....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I'm glad to hear that I'm not alone in thinking of lack of underwear as a turn-off!

I've never got so far as undressing someone, but I happen to think that a person in well-fitting underwear looks better than someone without any at all. Maybe it leaves more to the imagination. Maybe I'm just fucked up.

There's also the question of hygiene -- I don't wash my jeans every day, but I have clean underwear every day. Either I would have to start washing my jeans daily, or compromise my hygiene standards. I don't really want to do either. Nor would I want to have to think about how other people dealt with it.

I also take Brian's point that lack of underwear implies promiscuity, though it wouldn't really have occurred to me. I hope I would have picked up plenty of signals already if a person I was preparing to get naked with was just out for sex. If I knew he wasn't, then I don't think it would make a major difference to me, except for the reasons noted above.

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Re: Skin is skin  [message #31800 is a reply to message #31729] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont like girls period. As far as Im concerned they could all just drop off the face of the earth. So as far as Im concerned girls are all whores.



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Brian, are you ok?  [message #31801 is a reply to message #31800] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings Whip

That seems harsh for you, is there a reason for such a strong reply?

I could say all sorts of things, but I'd be shooting in the dark. Tell me about what is going on with you.

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Re: Brian, are you ok?  [message #31802 is a reply to message #31801] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its easy, I have a lot of experience with my female relatives. A mom whoes a bitch, etc. The girls at school act like so stupid around the jocks. Sorta like Jock of the week thing.



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But if they did who would do the windows?



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
The Mom thing I understand,  [message #31804 is a reply to message #31802] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but the rest of it doesn't really impact on you; unless you aren't being straight with your feelings. Why do you care how they act?

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Re: Skin is skin  [message #31806 is a reply to message #31803] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi deeej [l][0]

pardon my ignorance..but is that supposed to be some sort of sexual symbolism?? like Surprised ??

Please 'splain as google comes up with zilch!

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Re: The Mom thing I understand,  [message #31808 is a reply to message #31804] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont have to answer for how I feel about girls. Most are just as bad as the stupid Jocks they hange out with or the men they date. If you like girls thats great go for it. By the way girls who dont wear underware hange out in bars, get drunk. and act like sluts.



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Sweeping generalizations do not become you!  [message #31809 is a reply to message #31808] Fri, 05 May 2006 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: subject should really be [ | ][ 0 ] in this font  [message #31811 is a reply to message #31807] Fri, 05 May 2006 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry to pollute iomfats with such silliness..but..

well..what i typed turned into a similar looking icon face ..but it was a colon : followed by an o.. i heard it indicates a B.J.

I already know what this international symbol means..

Can't we get this thread up above the gutter level guys??

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Re: Sweeping generalizations do not become you!  [message #31812 is a reply to message #31809] Fri, 05 May 2006 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How the hell did we get from underware being inside out, and what I think about girls. A female without underware is or appears to be a slut. Trust me you should meet some of my moms friends. The breeders in the world can just leave me be and I will happily go on my way.



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Thread derivation  [message #31813 is a reply to message #31812] Fri, 05 May 2006 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings-

You said 'inside out'
I said 'commando'
you said 'male whore'
I said 'fashion statement'
you said 'whore'
I said 'are you ok?'
you said....

I think the thread went where you took it.
(but I still don't know why)

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hahaha i get it! thanks simon. teddy
Re: The Mom thing I understand,  [message #31815 is a reply to message #31808] Fri, 05 May 2006 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Odd, things, girls.

They appear to like best the boys who treat them worst. My son's been chasing them for years. He is a perfect gent, so they treat him like a brother and still hang out with the extreme macho types.

I married one, but I don't understand them at all. But I do like them. They're fun to flirt with, and make good company. Except the airheads, but I don't like airhead guys much either.

Girls between 9 and about 20 are weird, though. I think it must be the rotten kick in of hormones they get. OPne day really nice, the next really weird. I reckon they get a rougher ride than we do through puberty, coz they come out the other side pretty much as ok as we do. And the nice ones are nice and the nasty remain nasty.

I like them, don't want sex with them, find them great company, and really good friends.

They are still odd, though Smile (with apologies to my good friends who just happen to have female attributes)



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I am thinking that I would have been envious of two sets of people here:

The jocks, because someone could be attracted to them and show it

The girls, because a boy could be attracted to them and show it

Adding relatives who do not meet ine's own higher standards into the equation do make females difficult to like as a gender, if that is what one sees most of the time.



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I am assuming that by Commando you meant not wearing underware. So, I told you what I think of guys who dont wear underware, I said they made me think of a whore, Etc. Etc. You said what about wonem I said slut, Etc. etc. Now if you had another meaning for going commando, let me know.



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Brian, as a trainee scotsman - ure going to have SO much trouble with wearing a kilt.

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Re: I was SO waiting for Cossie to point that out!  [message #31840 is a reply to message #31839] Fri, 05 May 2006 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe it was Cossie who said the only people who wear kilts now are pretentious Americans and English tourist. Plus if I had to wear one, I would be wearing briefs under it. I figure after 2 or 3 Malts I wont care anyway.



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Re: I was SO waiting for Cossie to point that out!  [message #31841 is a reply to message #31840] Fri, 05 May 2006 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh yeh, to clarify something. I do like grandmas (well except for my own). Grandmas are always supper cool (except for mine the old witch).



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Brian1407a wrote:
> I believe it was Cossie who said the only people who wear kilts now are pretentious Americans and English tourist. Plus if I had to wear one, I would be wearing briefs under it. I figure after 2 or 3 Malts I wont care anyway.

Tell that to the Queen's Own! I wanna be there to pick up your pieces.

"...after 2 or 3 Malts I won't care anyway."

Is that anyway or either way?

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I feel like you might think I'm picking on you, but  [message #31843 is a reply to message #31841] Fri, 05 May 2006 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm really not. (OK perhaps a little)

I've read your signature a few times since I've been here, and I was wondering, (because I'm an old man and that is what I do best) how does karma apply to this thread and to the 51% of the population that hold in low regard?

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It was I, myself, personally who said that hardly any Scotsmen wear kilts!

There are three main exceptions. Firstly, the members of Scottish regiments which traditionally wear kilts; some regiments wear tartan trousers instead. The kilt-wearers do NOT wear undies. Secondly, the members of Pipe Bands and Scottish Country Dance Bands, who normally DO wear undies. Thirdly, those working in the tourist industry; I suppose they please themselves but I’d guess that most do wear undies.

The vast majority of kilts and associated accessories are sold to those who are not native Scots but have (or claim to have) Scottish ancestry; US tourists are probably the largest single group.

In fact, the modern kilt is very different from the traditional dress of the Highland crofter. His kilt was much shorter – several inches above the knee – and was usually of plain material. He didn’t wear undies, so early tourists following a native guide up a Highland pass would have an interesting experience, as is related in the memoirs of several such intrepid travellers!

The romantic notion of the Scottish Clans and their Tartans is almost entirely a creation of the tourist industry, which is still a major element in the Scottish economy. Most Irish emigrants were driven out by sheer economic hardship, particularly following the years in which the potato crop failed; the circumstances were largely outside Irish control. In Scotland, however, the crofters had their tenancies revoked by their Clan Chiefs, to make room for sheep. They were forcibly evicted from their crofts, which were often immediately burnt and destroyed, and were forced to move to areas which were unsuitable for sheep-farming. Of course, an area unsuitable for sheep-farming tends to be unsuitable for pretty well any other kind of farming! Thus the crofters were left with little choice; emigrate or – in all probability – die of starvation.

There was no support from the more civilised Lowlands, where the population was substantially of Anglo-Saxon rather than Celtic origin; the Highlanders were widely regarded as uncouth and uncivilised. So the Highlanders emigrated in their thousands. ‘The Highland Clearances’, as this period is usually described, was a dark period in our national history, and the suffering was caused from within, not from without. It is a period of which no Scotsman can be proud. The strange thing is that, wherever the Scots emigrants went, they carried with them a rose-tinted image of the lifestyle they had left behind. This nostalgia was the seed from which sprouted the romantic notion of Scotland’s past. The modern kilt and all its trappings – including in most cases the tartan from which it is made – was a canny response to this business opportunity.

My paternal grandmother, who died at the age of 87 when I was 11 years old, had a favourite song, which was called ‘Granny’s Hieland Hame’. After half-a-century, I can still remember the words: ‘Far away in the Hielands there stands a wee hoose / And it stands on the breest o’ the brae / Where we played as laddies there, lang lang ago, / Though it seems it was just yesterday. / I can still see old Granny, a smile on her face / Just as sweet as the heather dew; / As she kissed me goodbye, wi’ a tear in her eye, / She said “Laddie, may God bless you!” / (Chorus) Where the heather bells are blooming / Just outside Granny’s door; / Where, as laddies, there we played in days of long ago. / ‘Neath the shadow of Ben Vrackie, and Golspie’s lordly stane: / How I wish that I could see my Granny’s Hieland Hame.’ This epitomises the rose-tinted image. In truth, ‘Granny’ was probably thrown out of her ‘Hieland Hame’. Certainly, so far as I have been able to establish, my own Grandmother’s family were all from the Borders or South-West Scotland – well over two hundred miles South of Golspie, which is on the North-East Coast, a long way North of Inverness. But the romantic idea had taken root.

I doubt whether any other nation on earth has the capacity for self-delusion displayed by the Scots! I am proud of my country, but I am proud of its REAL history, not its imagined history. Maybe that’s why I’m so reluctant to take anything at face value – and that, as you all know, is my principal and possibly most irritating characteristic!



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Re: Another Burning Question  [message #31854 is a reply to message #31645] Sat, 06 May 2006 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... how'd you get to be such a genius?



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