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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Never once did I shoot down this childs achievment.
I did however say he should be in school.
If I did (within the body of this thread) shoot anything down it would be the motives of the father of this boy.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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One cannot tell the motivation of the parent. If I look at the way I have nurtured my own son, I have, I think and hope, encouraged him in his goals and not tried to live my own life through his. So I can see why the father would shadow the boat - his son is very young - and he will have wanted to encourage his son, though I do question his judgement in following so close, since it may appear to devalue the achievement.
With regard to taking the boy out of school, if it was his burning ambition would you stand in his way? The trip has truly done his schooling no harm. It may well have enhanced his future prospects.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Don't forget that a lot of this voyage took place in the Christmas holidays and that in most English schools not a lot of serious work gets done during the last week of term.
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Hey Marc I used to feel about the same way about school being so sacred for the average kid not to miss it at all unless for an emergency. But in the USA have you looked at some of the stuff kids are taught now in school? I think this kid might get a lot more out of this than he would if he were in school for that period of time. I am not certain of course, but I am no longer of the mind that school experience is so precious; at least in a lot of places here in the US.
I would also state that a lot of kids do real well with home schooling and actually can learn more of significance there than they would at school. I still think that if the kid is in a good school that it is important for him to devote his main thoughts to that, but in some cases it is not the worst thing for a kid to miss some of it.
What I have observed at times makes me wonder how good a job schools do with teaching even the basics anymore. I know some kids who are bright and didnt miss school and even had some scholarships for what they accomplished, but my friend's son (who did get a scholarship btw) had to learn how make his signature properly with cursive writing as he was not taught that properly in school. He went to his early grades in Minneapolis and then was schooled in the north at a small community school.
I dont mean to rag on you at all, but just thought my opinion might be considered as I am such an old foggy.
Ken
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David you said it so well I dont need to comment further.
Ken
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timmy wrote:
I can see why the father would shadow the boat - his son is very young - and he will have wanted to encourage his son, though I do question his judgement in following so close, since it may appear to devalue the achievement.
It seems to me that Timmy's comment here serves to disprove one drawback that Marc pointed out: if the object of father and son were to gain glory and renown I don't think the father would have shadowed his son so closely lest it devalue the achievement as Timmy says. I think that the father was motivated entirely by fear for his son's safety.
I still think that this was one hell of an achievement.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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