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Re: Evil is a word too far, I htink [message #56517 is a reply to message #56516]

Mon, 27 April 2009 19:30

arich

Really getting into it

Location: Seaofstars
Registered: August 2003
Messages: 563

If you’ll notice I didn’t specifically say you said any thing venomous or vitriolic, I just happen to find those that espouse atheism a “doctrine” that there is no deity; tend in my view to be or act towards anyone who disagrees with their belief system, with those overtones i.e. “venomous, vitriolic.”

Meta I used as a denotation of change, my meaning being that there is very little knowledge that is immutable, sorry if I did indeed or in your opinion used the word improperly, It's just that I love change and I thought it would be fun to use a word in a way that evokes something. I was thinking manyly about metaphysics though i dont think that word covers all that is mutable. Any suggestions?

Anthony all I am doing is interpreting with the information I have, the picture you paint or seem to paint of your beliefs, but as we all should know such an interpretation is full of subjectivity.

As I said, life should not be a pissing contest but a journey of discovery. Hopefully with respect of others no matter how much you may not agree with there hypothesis. No matter what this is the most important thing. Forgive my inappropriate grammar.

I have to go for the MO, I'll have to return and check this later or most likely tomorrow.

Peace everybody :-*

[Updated on: Mon, 27 April 2009 20:27]

People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm

Re: Evil is a word too far, I htink [message #56518 is a reply to message #56517]

Mon, 27 April 2009 20:13

acam

On fire!

Location: UK
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 1849

Dear arich, isn't it easy to get misunderstood? I knew that you hadn't pointed your finger at me and I didn't feel you had attacked me. You should have no worries about that.

When I am asked for my religion I say "None". I don't say "I believe there is no god". When the jehovahs witnesses come round I tell them they are wasting their time with me and only if they go on trying to engage me in conversation do I say I'm an atheist.

So, in effect I was saying that my sort of atheism isn't at all like a religion.

But I'm in serious disagreement with you about knowledge being liable to change. But to make a case for what I say I would need to distinguish between the conventional wisdom - what people in general in society believe - and knowledge that is 'secure'. By secure I mean that is established beyond reasonable doubt (and this begs the question about what IS a reasonable doubt).

So I'll give up the attempt to make a formal case and merely say that the sum of human knowledge has grown enormously and is now growing faster than it ever has. There are more true things established about more subjects than there ever have been before and more people can find this knowledge and use it than ever before.

Just look at the equipment on a typical good car and consider how much of it would have been impossible fifty years ago. Or an office or a radio station!

The world is changing BECAUSE of the growth of knowledge and knowledge is what is established to be true. The automatic transmission on my car works because of the knowledge that has gone into it.

Prayer doesn't work and never has but it has been believed in by people who've never put it to the test - perhaps they didn't want to!

I feel I'm talking round the subject instead of dealing with it direct. I'd better stop.

If you reply tell me if I have conveyed any sort of reasoning to you!

Love,
Anthony

Re: Rock hard takes on a new meaning… [message #56540 is a reply to message #56476]

Tue, 28 April 2009 19:42

acam

On fire!

Location: UK
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 1849

Actually, Aussie, I have tried various things such as wearing a partly unrolled condom on the theory that as it is a mucous membrane it ought to be kept damp.

I haven't noticed what you suggest - an increase in sensitivity after a few weeks.

I'll talk more about this if you want - but I'd prefer to do it by email. Mine email address is open for anyone to use.

Love,
Anthony

Re: Rock hard takes on a new meaning… [message #56541 is a reply to message #56476]

Tue, 28 April 2009 19:55

acam

On fire!

Location: UK
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 1849

Well, Aussie, I had a look at the Man Hood site and it is quite interesting. I'm not quite convinced that it is never too late to try foreskin restoration.

I think that maybe it is too late when erectile dysfunction gets in the way of any ability to notice increases of sensitivity.

But I can bee wrong: have been before: no doubt will be again!

Love,
Anthony

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