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icon9.gif Disturbing incident  [message #1379] Sat, 09 March 2002 00:59 Go to next message
charlie is currently offline  charlie

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We just had a disturbing incident here in South Texas last night. A twenty-three year old, should I say boy? walked into his local Burger King with a shotgun and a bottle of fluid with wires coming out. He chased all the customers out and held four employees hostage. First let me say it ended peacefully with no one physically hurt.

But what disturbed me was his demands. He wanted cigarettes, a laptop computer, $10,000 compensation to be given to each of the four hostages for being held at gunpoint, money for his grandmother who is on social security, money for his mother who is ill, and his last demand, respect. He traded the first hostage for cigarettes. He released the second because her mother was waiting for her outside. He released the third man when the man showed hima picture of his one month old daughter. His last hostage was a friend of his and they laughed and told jokes to each other. Then, one by one, he started emptying the shotgun of rounds and handing them to his buddy. Once the gun was empty, his buddy said it was time to leave, and they walked out together. Happy ending.

But I spent all day today wondering how this young man got into the state of mind that would cause him to do this. It bothered me so much that I almost got mad at my co-workers when they made jokes about it. I couldn't help wondering what would have happened if there had been someone for this boy to talk to say a month ago, or even a week ago.

I also wonder about his father, a former sheriff of the town where this took place. I did not hear any other thing said about his father than that, so obviously he was not around in the area when this took place. I wonder if he was around at all.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest, it has been bugging me all day.


Hugs, Charlie
icon9.gif I can see why  [message #1380 is a reply to message #1379] Sat, 09 March 2002 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trevor is currently offline  trevor

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it bugged you. It's sad that people have to do things like that for respect and, ironically, because he went out peacefully, he probably won't get respect, either. It seems like that should be pretty much a God-given right - people should be respected unless/until they prove otherwise, but I know that's not how society functions sometimes.

It SEEMS like quite a few law enforcement people are on an ego trip, so I sure wouldn't want to be the son of one of that type.
I think he just wanted someone to talk to...  [message #1381 is a reply to message #1380] Sat, 09 March 2002 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
charlie is currently offline  charlie

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to listen to what he was saying, and understanding, not just hearing the words. I think this cry for help was just the last straw of a long series of disappointments and frustrations.

My heart feels real pain any time I hear of an incident like this. I just wish that more people would reach out.


Hugs, Charlie
Re: I think he just wanted someone to talk to...  [message #1384 is a reply to message #1381] Sat, 09 March 2002 15:29 Go to previous message
david in hong kong is currently offline  david in hong kong

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I agree with everything you guys said about this weird and sad incident.

But one thing that always bugs me about incidents like this one is that they involve guns. Anybody and everybody can get guns whenever they want one. I know I'm touting a pretty unpopular cause, but I think the constitutional right to bear arms is stupid and out-dated.

Rather, I support the right to arm bears.



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