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Eighteen people dead in a German school. One policeman, fourteen teachers, three students. One of them being the gunman, who shot himself with a pistol.
His motive; revenge apparantly.
Why do these things happen? News papers have noted the young man played violent computer games and watched violent movies. One of them seems to have been that infamous school-shooting movie that alledgedly inspired a similar incident in the US, I can't remember the name of it.
Is there a connection there, games and movies makes people go crazy and start killing people? No, of course not.
The real reason is, that WE DON'T CARE ANYMORE.
We don't care about our children. We don't make sure they're safe, we don't take action when they suffer, we don't give them enough love or attention. We don't help them when things go badly for them in school or otherwise. There's not enough time, not enough money, not enough energy for that.
So because we're unwilling to pay the required amount, we pay the price in ruined lives and dead people instead.
And some people thinks there's nothing wrong with our capitalist society... Jesus christ.
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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You can not blame a movie for the actions of a deranged mind. Also you can't blame a particular form of economic base as cause for such atrocious acts.
Why didn't anyone see the signs of this poor souls inner tourmoil? Why was he left to simmer in pain until he saw no other choice than to lash out.
It is easy to look at this and say "how sad" or "how could this happen" but the truth of it is that there are no clear cut answers.
Parents work, trus enough and kids will play the games and watch the movies and most will go on to lead busy productive lives just like they always have.
It is a sad thing indeed but it will happen again and again, and it does no one any good to point fingers and render guilt.
When society began inspecting the family unit and rendered the decision that dicipline in the home is abusive to the child it was giving the child free rains to stretch former restraints to their limit.
As we all know, when there is no fear of reprisal or retribution, there is no fear to act out.
I've rambled on enough....
Just my opinion....
Marc....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Through the ages there have been documents cases of mases killings perpetrated by one or two people, but in this electronic age stories and visuals can and are transmitted around the world in the blink of an eye. These horros are compounded each time the media runs them through every outlet available and repeated as often as there is interest. But these events are not new. Man has done inhuman things since the dawn of time. And they won't stop until there is some way to predict the future madness that grows in some minds. Unfortunately, in today's society, blame must be placed in order to assuage the minds of the weak. It is similar to the other phobias that have grown in our modern day, but never seemed to exist in history.
The visual images of the shock and horror on the survivors panders to the morbid couriousity that exists in all. Who doesn't crane to look at a car accident while passing by, or sit fascinated in front of the TV watching scenes of disaster replay over and over. Violence, terror, and horror sells. I am not condemning this, just stating my belief. And I try not to blame the usual targets that so called experts advance in an effort to get recognition for themselves or their pet theory.
IMHO
Hugs, Charlie
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Guest
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On fire! |
Registered: March 2012
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Raising my hand quietly from a 15 year old kid's point of view...
So many teenagers today live in disfunctional families. I only have one friend that has his original mom and dad. Most have just a single parent working hard just to feed the kids. The parents work really hard to give us what we want and then seldom have time to give us what we need.I always feel like grownups are still searching for what they want to be when they grow up too.
Being in high school today is like living in an arcade game.
The reasons for feeling inferior are many, from reading on a 2nd grade level to extreme poverty to abuse. The different races, gangs have vendettas that cross over into each others and you just try to stay out of the way. No one ever uses the restrooms because that's where they hurt you. You make sure you have friends that will watch your back. And God forbid you are different in any other way. Not in the small rural towns that make up America.
The violent movies and games DO influence in that they make the already troubled ones feel powerful enough to actually act on their feelings.The day after Resident Evil came out in the theaters, 37 kids were suspended for fighting. I guess they were 'killing' zombies. Kids wear bullets for jewelry that can be taken off and used, knives are everywhere and you don't catch people's eyes for fear of offending them. Where I live, the trucks all have gun racks and the gun racks all have guns.
The school parking lot is NOT the place to have an arguement.
No one talks to their parents. I don't because it would upset them; others because grownups generally don't have time to listen.
Most parents try, they really do...so do teachers, but if a kid wants to hurt people because he is hurting, it will happen. All the grownups will be shocked and all the kids will sigh, already knowing that kid was primed for what he did. If you ask us, we can tell you who might do the damage. But, isn't it sad that you don't ask and we don't tell..........until it happens.
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trevor
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Really getting into it |
Registered: November 2002
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the more I realize I must try to contact my 16 yo nephew. I've been sitting on the fence, knowing that he has some issues, is not in a "fair" home situation compared to his siblings, probably has few friends and nobody to really talk to. On the other side, there is some personal risk for me - possibly for him - from both his dad and stepmom and my wife who knows just enough about me (fantasies only) to be wary of much private interaction with boys.
If you're interested, it was recently discussed on Ashley's board.
I really appreciate you speaking out, smith - I think in many ways I was really lucky in school and things seem to have gotten worse since then.
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Guest
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On fire! |
Registered: March 2012
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Trevor-
I read your post on Ashley's board. Your nephew is in a tight spot right now. I wish I could help but with no computer, he is alone.I'd be glad to talk to him.
With all his problems, he will either withdraw into himself or begin to act out unless someone helps. I see the risk to you..can I make a suggestion? Maybe your wife could be with you when you see him. He sounds like he is totally lacking in the
"Mom" department right now. He needs role models of every kind, I think. No fears for you that way and she might see how much he needs help. He really needs some grownups in his life that he can respect and look to for answers. As much as we like to act like we "know it all", we...don't. Not by a long country mile.
I'm just trying to think about it from his point of view. I wish I could help more. Just remember that ANYTHING you do is better than realizing later that you did nothing. A very wise person once said, "You have to think, THEN act. And act with caution, reserve and focus." You'll figure out what to do to help him. I always have faith in people who care, so will he.
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Guest
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On fire! |
Registered: March 2012
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I guess that "children" has a harder time to determine what's reality and what's not. I don't think it had to with what's happened in Germany BUT movies can cause awful things. In Sweden there have been children killing children becaus ethey sawit in a movie and they wanted to try it. One got stoned to death and he was 4 years old and I think that the other boys were 6 maybe???? Children programms has to much voilence in them today and it's up to the parents to keep the children away from that.
That's just my opinion as a non parent!
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