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Registered: March 2012
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This is going to be a different kind of post for
me. Not a question, but a rant. >sorry ahead of time<
My summer job is running the children's program
at the library. I've gotten to know the kids well
and they tell me everything especially that no one
ever reads to them or talks to them. One little guy's
'mother' even forgot all about him and we had to take
him home.These kids are not getting the love they need.
I convinced my boss to start having snacktime when I
realized how hungry some of them were. Dang! Doritos
and Pepsi is NOT a good supper.
My Point? You have to have a license to drive, even
to catch a damn fish but kids are just brought into
the world and left to struggle on their own. No
wonder we are so socially needy. I mean, that woman
left her two little kids in the hot car, windows
shut,to get her hair done. Two hours later.....
When did kids stop being important? I know that
everyone on the board with children nutures and loves
them. I can always feel that love when you talk about
them; but sadly, you are in the minority. If I'm
lucky enough to have kids of my own, I'm going to
make sure they never feel unloved or unwanted. Not
buying them 'things' but giving them my time.The
wealthiest kid in the world is the one who has been
given his parent's time. One of my most wonderful
memories is just walking with my grandpa, not saying
much but just walking along, knowing I could say
anything I wanted and he'd really listen.
So many of the things I see kids doing today is just
a desperate bid for attention,begging for someone
to help them, to give them structure...limits....and
a bit of their time.
smith
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tim...of usa
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Location: buffalo, new york...USA
Registered: July 2002
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out of a wilderness of choas comes words of truth......
once again smith i have to sit back and wounder ....is he really 15 not 51?......
your question about when did kids becaome less important is a timeless one. in todays world it seems that the most important things are what you have...kids included!!! back in a time some what forgotten when no one really had a heck of alot what you had did not matter as much and the things you did have you held dear to your heart...very little was disposable. today EVERYTHING is disposable and im my eyes thats sucks. by haveing something you can just toss to the side when your 'done' with it it takes a lot of the value out of it. right or wrong is a question that i dont have the answer to but i do know with every fiber of my being that something has to change. there is no 'S' on my chest so i cant change the world all by my self but i can change the little tiny part of the world that i live in and try as much as i can to help those that come into my life change there little place also.
like TIM i also help out younger guys from time to time and in the end 9 times out of 10 i am asked 2 questions...1 why have you done this for me....answer is because that is what i would like some one to do if i needed help.....and 2 how can i ever pay you back....answer that i always give...at some point in your life you might be able to do the same for some one else...you want to pay me back pass on the kindness that i have shone you.
oh ya.....you done did it again... your comment about your grandpa took me back to my own grand father. growing up i had NO respect for any male figure in my life with one exception my grand father. i grew up on a farm the one that my great grand father started a long time ago and my gradn father ran it after him then my father the farm is gone now (long story) but i can still remember taking long walks with my grand father around the farm and feeling llike a i was some one not some thing. i will forever hold those days and hours dear to my heart and at times when i am so bummed out or pissed off i close my eyes and go back to the farm to take a walk with him once again....
thanks for the warm fuzzy feeling smith
ok now i was ranting....sorry
ok back to work
later
tim
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As always smith, you seem to hit the nail right on the head.
I can definitely identify myself with what you say, I never lacked anything materialistically when I was a kid, with both parents working and pulling in decent wages (father, more than decent I guess), I was a bit spoiled in that regard. Attention and emotional security however was a different story.
I know that even back then when I still was a dumb, silly kid, I'd rather been poor with a set of parents that truly cared for me, than well-to-do with the ones I got.
I reason much the same as you do, should I ever get kids - not that I ever expect that to happen but hey, you never know - the most important thing, above all else, would be to make sure they feel loved, and to be there for them whenever they need it.
Too bad so many parents don't see it that way...
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Sometimes the two contradict each other, and other times it is a real pain. But I would not give up my kids for all the money on earth. Kids that are neglected, like the ones you have noticed, smith, are a minority (I dearly hope) but do seem to be everywhere. Keep doing what you have been doing, and be ready to help when you can. All any one person can do is help their fellow man.
Tim, if you have not seen the movie Pay It Forward, then you should. It describes a movement that surfaces from time to time in the media, but is probably (and again, hopefully) more widespread than most think. It is a philosophy that all should live by.
Lenny, the sun is bad for you. Causes premature wrinkles, and other nasty stuff. Keep it to moderation, and find a good tanning oil, hehe.
Hugs, Charlie
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Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
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I'm beginning to think that parents ought to be licensed. I was just watching the news and they reported that yet ANOTHER baby was found dead in the garbage. That makes five this year in southern CA. It's unbelievable that someone could do that, especially with the law they passed a year or two ago that makes it LEGAL for a mother to abandon her child at a hospital. Not that I really think that is such a great idea, but it was SUPPOSED to keep them from dumping their babies in the garbage.
With some of the things I see parents doing to their children, I am very thankful that I had the parents that I ended up with. Not that they were perfect or anything. When I was a teen, I would have gladly traded them in. My mother's incessant yelling was pretty awful and my dad's idea of being a father was $5 and the car keys when all I really wanted was some of his time. But when I look back, I am very thankful that I didn't end up with a pair of the all too common abusive and even murderous parents that I see so often these days.
Think good thoughts,
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mihangel
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Location: UK
Registered: July 2002
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I wonder if it's a question of how well parents understand children's needs, in this crazy world of multiple distractions - distractions both for parents and offspring. In the past, distractions were fewer and (to generalise brutally) upbringing tended to be stricter. The skills of parenting were perhaps transmitted more easily.
These days, I reckon courses in parenting should be obligatory.
I've no complaint at all about my own dad. He was an intellectual type who, though he wasn't really at ease with young kids, still he gave me a fair amount of his time when I was small. But the point when I began to think for myself pretty well coincided with his retirement (he'd married very late). From then on, the sky was the limit: he spent endless time with me, he helped me no end as a budding scholar, he taught me quite as much as school did. And he was fun. He died over 30 years ago; but thanks, Dad.
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mt
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Toe is in the water |
Registered: November 2002
Messages: 93
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I don't know about getting a license to have kids but MAN I wish you were my father!
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"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Michael Simon
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Toe is in the water |
Registered: January 1970
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For one reaing what you said is...true, sad and a matter all societies have to fight to solve.
A license needed, no, as kids come natural you cannot license it and you cannot force ppl to learn how to raise their kids.- As well all know you dun drive better the day you have your license than the day before that.
As for kids in our society, yes...you ar eright. It has two reasons ( especially in North America). Nowadays, consuming goods, even those we cannot afford is a normal habit. That leads to many people making depts and needing a lot of money to live on. This is a vicious cycle. Usually one parent at least works half a job or no job at all. This is not possible with the dept level many ppl have. So they work even two jobs, and make the kids pay for it. With health problems, ( bad food) and psychological problems ( neglect). Then comes the fact that only few families are stable. With all that stress, alcohol probs come, ppl dun see each other and get stranges...even more families break up. As many wastern countreis achieve growth in terms of consumer goods at offereing them at nearly no interest to buy on dept, tis cycle will become even harder...and pressure on society as well...many ppl need a "cool car" ( friends of mine have no money work about 24/7 and drive a brand new SUV)
Anyway long talk short solution. In my point of view the solution to this dilemma is politics. ( I just spent some time with this subject cause my party just made a programe for familes). What woudl solve that woudl be financial aid for families, depending on their income. Tis aid woudl be conditioned maybe ( in case of teh USA) but why not change or re-distribute taxes. Why not tax ppl without kids higher ( they dun invest in future generations but spend all thei money on themselves) and give the surplus as aid to families that someone can stay at home. So maybe that wodl give attention back to kids????
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mt
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Registered: November 2002
Messages: 93
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I’d be honoured! Send me your CV!
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