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ruggero
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Getting started |
Location: Miami, Florida
Registered: October 2002
Messages: 21
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I have been absent from this place for a while, now, actually I was not coming back. Why? because something disturbed me. I could not help notice that the stories are all about teenagers, that was of some concern to me, but the worst came about when I read the story about the young kid and the sadomasochist man, actually i did not read it, I scanned it to see if there were any redeeming features in that story: none to be found anywhere, just a lurid , disgusting tale of sick fantasies. Now, the story bothered me, but what really disturbed me most was that I had read the introduction to the story and how the host of this site had begged the author to allow him to host the story in his site. Why? it is a sick and disturbed tale, i have been rather upset, I don't know what to think, everybody here has been so nice to me, please, understand that it is rather difficult for me to accept this situation.
Ruggero.
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Steve
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Really getting into it |
Location: London, England
Registered: November 2006
Messages: 465
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Caro Ruggero,
The answer is simple: don't read those stories that disturb you.
I recall that timmy had great doubts about that story before he decided to post it - and he had his reasons.
Also, it is not accurate that ALL the stories are about teenagers. I can recall a few that were not.
Don't leave us. Please stay. This Message Board can offer you love and support separate from the stories section of the main site. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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warren c. e. austin
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Likes it here |
Location: Toronto, Ontario, CANADA
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 247
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Yes, Ruggero, most of the stories 'hosted' here are about adolescents, teenagers, if you will, finding their feet and often their sexuality along the way. Most, too, have been written by, but again not all, Authors who are adults. Authors who in large part are expressing the angst and uncertaintly they themself felt and experienced when dealing with their own at that age.
Hopefully, youth (regardless of their age) reading them will garner some understanding that they do have options available to them; that not of society will spurn them; that fellowship can exist amongst people of different cultures, alternative lifestyles and sexualities; that they too have a worthy place in the schemata known as humankind.
Like you too, I had and still have great difficulties with Jack Rowland's magnificent tale of Voluntary Domination. So much so that ironically, and almost coincident to your *post* today, I was discussing my inability to write a review of the serial solely because the subject matter disturbed me so much. I don't begrudge the Author his story, nor do I wish to diminish his talent, and I definitely do not wish to denigrate this Message Board for its' decision to provide access to it either. Kindly understand too that I will write the review, but it will take time, and healing of my own, before I'm able to foster that ability within myself. Whilst I, never experienced events at all similar to those portrayed by Jack in "Tim's" story, I have known a youth who had. He needed a story just like Jack's, and were he alive today he just might tell you that himself. There are thousands of other youth's just like mine, still living and suffering their self-made prisons who also need Jack's story, and should thet either through happenstance or diection actually find it here, and recieve much needed solice and healing, then the end will have justified the means.
This Message Board, as does this entire web-site reflects the journey and the vision of it's creator. Overall, it documents a journey "one" man has made through a morass of insecurities, outright shame and despair arising from his perception of himself and his "place" in the world that surrounded him as a youth. That he has managed to emerge whole and of sound mind and purpose is testimony to the youth he was and the man he became.
Those others of us, who have flocked to this place like moths drawn to light, too have paid the price for our choices, and in coming here founf and have experienced fellowship, and yes love, the likes of which exists no where else in the media of the internet. We are family; we do love; we hare; we support; and like all families we ocassional fight; but we are family never-the-less.
You are right to be unsure of, and to question our purpose; but please never mistake it, or fail to understand it.
Warren C. E. Austin
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On fire! |
Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
Messages: 1179
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Since I have written some of these stories, I'll respond, though I can only speak for myself and not the other authors.
I wrote my first story, Into the Lion's Den, as a way to help myself gain a better understanding of who I am and how I became me. I decided to share it hoping that maybe it could help someone else. I never really intended it to be, but it became somewhat autobiographical.
I based some parts on events that happened to me and/or others that I knew, though the way those tales are told it is most certainly a work of fiction. I put a little piece of me in almost every character. The characters in the story have to deal with nearly everything that terrified me when I was growing up. For the most part, they deal with it a whole lot better than I did.
As for the story you mentioned, I started to read it once. I didn't go beyond the first few paragraphs. I never asked timmy why he wanted to host it. I figured that he has his reasons. It's his site and that gives him the right to decide what he hosts here. I don't have to read it and probably won't. I find the site more than just worthwhile even if there are a few things I find disagreable.
I understand your difficulty. I think in one of your earlier posts you said that you are a teen. You don't want to become part of someone's sick fantasy and you shouldn't. Weigh the good of this site against the bad. You said that people have been nice to you. Take that for what it's worth. You may be able to benefit. You may be able to contribute. In the end, this site is what you make of it. Only you can decide that.
I don't know if I made any sense, but I tried.
Think good thoughts,
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I don't really agree with you that the story you spoke of was "bad". But that is not important. What is important is that you did not like it. So don't read it!
I hate to sound like I don't care about what you think, and that is just NOT true anyway. But like a television channel, you can change it. I can see why some would find it disturbing. I didn't.
But I would like to think this place is inclusive not exclusive. I hope you find it that way.
I for one, liked your story, and was touched by it. I hope the ending is not yet written and wish you all the happiness life can bring.
Be well, and live life to the fullest,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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Roggero, I come here still and I have a lot of respect and admiration for Tim. He went against what he liked and removed pics on this site because of ME. I still came here even though there were pics here that I found distasteful. I told Tim about my own experience and he made a conscious decision and removed them. I am sure others didnt like them or Did like them but the point is, we are pretty accomodating and, like others have stated here, we are a community and therefore friends. 
Stick around mate, the best is STILL to come. It is GOOD to see that you voiced your opinion anyway, rather than just leave.
People have a habit of changing your direction through life
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13796
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The site has several purposes. These include:- educational
- informational
- campaiging for acceptance
- inspirational
- erotic
- thought provoking
The stories have an unashamed teenage bias. It is simply because interanlly I am a teenager, and I have lived my "unavailable life" through the stories I write.
When I started to collect stories I headed for the same theme.
The story by Jack Rowan is much more challenging. Back in time on this board is a whole discussion about it. I hope you can refer to the prior pages to find it rather than restarting that discussion here. The reason for asking the author if I might host it was because it shows many positive aspects among the rather odd world it portrays. Those positive aspects have allowed more than one boy in what I might term as an abusive relationship with an adult to extract himself with honour intact from that relationship.
In life I know and am good friends with people in a master/ slave relationship. We discuss these things. I have learnbt for sure what I always knew. If such a relationship is desired by each party, the master must deserve the trust placed on him by the slave. And the slave has the ultimate power of removing that trust. What many people do no tunderstand is that real love, respect and trust is necessary in such a relationship. It is not about pain but about the ultimate giving and receiving of trust.
Certainly this will be distasteful to those not so inclined. That is fine. And that story is powerfully ring fenced to ensure that only someone who intends to read it will read it.
As for the other stories, the range is broadening, gently, into young adults. What the site is not and never will be, is a glorification of relationships that create abuse.
I would simply say that it is possible, if unusual, for a remarkably young person or either gender to initaite a relatioinship with an appreciably older person of either gender, be that emotional, or fully loving. Who woiuld deny that younger person love?
From time to time we go to the theme of cross generation relationships, and this produces battle lines. Of necessity battle lines are based upon the law of the relevant land and society's acceptance. I cannto argue with those. I simply ask, if we end up discussiing this intractable topic again, for a discussion free from invective, and free from hurt. People read this board who do not post.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13796
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The warning says:
BEGINS
I confirm that I wish to read "The Story of Tim", which I understand to be about the sexual relationship and dominant/submissive relationship betwen a boy and an adult, and involves deliberate giving and receipt of pain. I have read the main warning page and I take full responsbility for proceeding further. I will only check this box and carry on if I am not likely either to be upset by, or offended by the contents of such a story, which contains some very challenging chapters . (this box must be checked in order to proceed to the story).
ENDS
This is more than "You have the off switch". This says "do not turn the film on unless you KNOW you want to read it. Unloess, of course, you touch all signs saying "Wet paint" to prove it
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Thanks again, IOM, for sailing your own course thru the shoal-infested waters of discrimination.
There are closets within closets, and minorities within minorities, which we should all know more about.
In the 1960's, effeminate men and drag queens were the first to start the Stonewall demonstrations. That they accomplished while being trodden down by "macho" gays who hated the "sissies". Surely that fight is now passe!
Our lives have been constricted and hurt and dictated to by those more numerous but infinitely more narrow-minded. Let's not do it to others in our own community.
Ruggero, I don't know you. I hope we can become friends. You seem to be speaking your mind more, and that's terrific. Keep doing that! Everybody should be allowed to do the same, including those into the BDSM scene. That's the whole point.
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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smith
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On fire! |
Registered: January 1970
Messages: 1095
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the idea is that you have freedom of choice. The introduction told you what you would be reading. There are beautiful stories on this site, one to fit every need.
Like e, I write a story on this site. I write it for alot of different reasons. I don't think it's offensive or rude. I write it about teenagers because that's who I want to speak to; that's who needs to hear someone say that there should be no differences between people; no barriers; nothing should make you turn your back on anyone and that there is always someone who will care if you open your heart enough to listen. That's what timmy's site is all about...listening and helping.
I may or may not care for the story you refer to, but freedom of the written word is important and what one person finds distasteful may answer the questions of another. People need to find their own way......you, me, everyone.
GH
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ruggero
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Getting started |
Location: Miami, Florida
Registered: October 2002
Messages: 21
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Of all the replies to my post, yours is the one that hurt me, I sensed animosity and I think I lost that friend I had found and of whom I was so proud!!! It seems you took my words too personally, yes, I did not understand and probably still don't about the choices you have made, but never did I say you should change this or that, I know, this is your site and you can put in whatever you like, I would never dream to suggest otherwise! My mistake, I spoke my mind and you did not like it, I suppose.
Well, lesson learned, and to everybody else, thanks for not shouting at me, you made your point clearly and with..kindness.
To you, I still love you, it is a love that was born out of a sensation I first felt when I visited your site and when I read an email, you so kindly sent me. I hope time will heal our {I say ours, although I don't have any animosity towards you, none!!)wounds.
I want to extend to all of you my love, sincerely, Ruggero.
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A effeminate guy I know was beat up this weekend, and received a death threat yesterday.
Things have not yet changed here.
As for the rest .... you say it better than I could.
Thanks,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13796
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I am not a person who has animosity.
I look at behaviour, not the person. I may, at times, deprecate the behaviour. That never means that the person is diminished in my mind.
I simply stated my reasons for hosting it and bewilderment that one story in particualr, well ring fenced, had caused you to scratch your head.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Pick yaself up, dust yaself off and start all over again. Timmy is a cool person and says mostly what he thinks. It is NEVER from the stand point of being a pedant or cause he dont "like" ya mate ok?? If anything, you are blessed that he did reply. Means that he considers your concern important enough TO answer.
Hugs from us all Ruggero and please dont feel chatised or singled out ok?? You ARE among friends here.
People have a habit of changing your direction through life
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