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icon8.gif Drunk 10 year old  [message #5965] Sat, 16 November 2002 15:39 Go to next message
AdamAnt is currently offline  AdamAnt

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this is just wrong

I went to my friends party tonight, and everyone was drunk. Her 10 year old brother was wondering around the whole night, and then disappeared.

He came back over 2 hours later and was off his face, he was drunk. some guys in my year at school had fed him scotch and coke and made this 10 year old so drunk he could hardly string words together.

He came and sat next to me at the table and I gave him a quick glance not realising how drunk he was. I was talking to my friend, and then he just collapsed onto me. He was leaning on me because he could hardly keep upright.

I sat there with this kid leaning against me for almost an hour and we got him some water to help wake him up. He finally woke up very confused and asked to be taken to bed. So I picked him up and took him to his room. I tucked him in and got a bucket for next to his bed incase he throws up in the night.

WHO THE F*** feeds a 10 year old boy SCOTCH ? If I find them I will castrate them with a spoon.

Adam
Re: Drunk 10 year old  [message #5967 is a reply to message #5965] Sat, 16 November 2002 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tim...of usa is currently offline  tim...of usa

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to answer your question...some one who needs my size 13 combat boot placed firmly against there ass a few million times for being a moron.

and then he needs to be turned over to the police.

just my opinion.

peace adam
and sleep well knowing you did the right thing for that boy
(nice touch the bucket)

tim...of USA
Thanks for caring.  [message #5970 is a reply to message #5965] Sat, 16 November 2002 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lenny is currently offline  lenny

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Your friend, whose brother it was, deserves a whupping too for not looking after her brother properly.

She should have been forced to sit by her brother's side all night to make sure he did not vomit in his sleep and drown in the stuff. If I'd been there, I sure as hell would have done so, on threat of calling the social services if she refused. Then I'd done so anyway the day after of course.

Kids and alcohol don't mix.


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direct my sail."

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I think an over reaction  [message #5972 is a reply to message #5965] Sat, 16 November 2002 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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If we get away from the "I'll beat the crap out of the twat who fed him booze" for a second, we might see the wood from the trees.

Facts known: he was drunk. It was a party. Drink was available. Besides it only takes a couple of shots to get a 10 year old plastered.

Facts not known: that anyone fed him booze: heck as a 10 year old I would have taken it for myself. He was poorly supervised is all.

Social services and kids do not mix. Bad threat. A children's home is the next step. By no means all are good places.

The lad needs love is all. Unconditional love. Remember, when tucking a drunk perosn into bed: Use the RECOVERY POSITION. Drowning in your own puke must be an awful way to die.

This is written as a father. One who made sure hsi son understood alcohol. And yes, one who allowed his 5,6,7 etc year old son reasoanbale quantities of supervised alcohol.



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Ditto, timmy!  [message #5976 is a reply to message #5972] Sun, 17 November 2002 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
david in hong kong is currently offline  david in hong kong

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After all, he was at home. I would have snuck it myself, too.

I also liked the bucket idea. Very useful in a couple of situations with my own plastered friends and loved ones!

What IS the "recovery position", anyhow?



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Recovery position  [message #5983 is a reply to message #5976] Sun, 17 November 2002 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With grateful thanks to drugsinfofile.com from where the picture is linked, and doubtless whose copyright this picture is:



This ensures a clear airway, gives a path for vomit to fall away, and is a stable and safe position



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icon7.gif Looks like a handy position for other things, too!  [message #5985 is a reply to message #5983] Sun, 17 November 2002 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon7.gif Re: I think an over reaction  [message #5989 is a reply to message #5972] Sun, 17 November 2002 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry folks, I am 100% in agreement with Timmy.

And, since no parent is ever perfect. No child is ever perfect.

I don't think we should be critical of a parent unless they are clearly abusing a child. This is a matter of opinion, It is up to you to raise your children differently if you see fit.

I am not qualified to make that choice for another persons child.

I think timmy has it right on. Says it better than I can.

Kevin



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icon13.gif Not ever with a drunk boy. Especially never.  [message #5991 is a reply to message #5985] Sun, 17 November 2002 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the child aquired the drink on his own... I agree... BUT!  [message #5992 is a reply to message #5972] Sun, 17 November 2002 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Moderated, with proper parental supervision, it is acceptable to give small amounts.

If the child was fed the liquor by some other person for the sake of "let's see how f*@Ked up we can get this kid" then it is nothing short of criminal and should be treated as an assault with malicious intent.

The child could have been seriously harmed. Alcohol poisioning is nothing to be taken lightly. Nor is it a right of passage.
Complex points here  [message #5994 is a reply to message #5992] Sun, 17 November 2002 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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At what point does stupidity turn into malicious intent?

No-one has said that alcohol poisoning is to be taken lightly. Nor that a drunk child is not something to be taken seriously.

We are looking at balancing the real harm that stupidity/malice can do against the potential to harm a family with social welfare people, or the harm that wreaking violence on the person (if any) who gave booze to the kid can do.

In addition, no-one has said "Ah, but what if it had been cocaine?" Frankly, if it had been an illegal substance I would already have called the police. But that is because I do not tolerate illegal substances, especially available to kids.



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At what point does stupidity turn into malicious intent?  [message #6006 is a reply to message #5994] Sun, 17 November 2002 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At the point where a stupid idea becomes a stupid action.
To equate "stupidity" with "malice" is unusual  [message #6007 is a reply to message #6006] Sun, 17 November 2002 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In my life I have often been stupid, had stupid ideas and performed stupid actions. I have also performed malicious actions.

I am sure you have done the same.

You seem to be bent on making a point in a confrontational manner. I am not yet sure what that point is. But i do ask you to ameliorate your manner. Normally we do not thrive on confrontation here.



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Re: To equate "stupidity" with "malice" is unusual  [message #6010 is a reply to message #6007] Sun, 17 November 2002 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When the object of the "stupidity" is a child, that is where the line is crossed.
What you are achieving  [message #6017 is a reply to message #6010] Sun, 17 November 2002 23:44 Go to previous message
timmy

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Is dilution of the original post, really.

I mean it's no skin off my nose, or anything. It just seems rather strange.

Still, "taking more water with it" is an old and tried solution to being drunk.

Perhaps it's the cultural difference between Europe and the USA here. We never had prohibition, and we gave the USA the Pilgrim fathers because we certainly didn't want them. We have a substantially more relaxed view of alcohol than the USA.



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