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The place is here.  [message #9248] Sat, 05 April 2003 18:16 Go to next message
timmy

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I have, as I said in Ashley's thread about male rape, been thinking about places for people to post special pleas for help. The link on fht front page to the fear of being different also leads to a page which once cntained two people's accounst of the awfulness that happened to them, and by request now contains only one. And there is a special guestbook there, too, with a specific purpose.

But the place to talk, anonymously, is here.

Some people are concerned about IP addresses being recorded. They do not contain enough information for me to know who you are. They contain enough information for me to know only yout internet service provider. And when you dial up your IP address changes.

So you are anonymous.

Unless you use an unusual ISP. that is, and also unless I know where you live. So do not tell me either piece of information. You thus remain anonymous.

I record the IP addresses in case of a serious abuse of this site. And all ISPs do anyway.

So, this messagebaord is for the purpose of asking for serious help. And not necessarily in public.

As I have said often before, if you cannot post, choose the one of us you feel most at home with and email. But when you do, remember that the person you mail may not answer. They may be busy, or you may toch a raw nerve making it impossible for them to speak. So, ask your next best match. And then the next.

And do NOT reveal more of yourself than you wish them to know. This is a relationship you are in control of from the start.



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icon9.gif Re: The place is here.  [message #9265 is a reply to message #9248] Sun, 06 April 2003 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dont see the thread I started anymore?? DID I make a wrong statement or something??



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It is on page 2  [message #9266 is a reply to message #9265] Sun, 06 April 2003 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure why as there are recent contributions.
icon3.gif The way it seems to work is this  [message #9267 is a reply to message #9266] Sun, 06 April 2003 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nick is currently offline  nick

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When you post something to a thread, it brings the thread up to the top of the page.

However, when a page gets full the system pushes the oldest thread onto the next page. In determining what is the "oldest thread" the system only looks at the date and time of the first contribution to that thread - in this case 07:26 on 2 April. It disregards the fact that more recent contributions have been added.

Don't know if this setting can be altered. Timmy?
We think it works that way too  [message #9268 is a reply to message #9267] Sun, 06 April 2003 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The pages have to be kept "short" enough to load ona dial up lionk, so it puches old threads. Once pushed there is no way of bringing them back to page one. And the setting for "page 2 ness" seems to be unalterable.

It is crap software made to look very good. But it has warts.



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Short term poll  [message #9270 is a reply to message #9268] Sun, 06 April 2003 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Loading Time
I want to get the optimal page size for this forum. If you have a DIAL UP LINK only, please answer the speed questions, otherwise click the "faster link" question:



Current Results



This will help to get it right in the future



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icon6.gif Re: New Software??  [message #9274 is a reply to message #9270] Sun, 06 April 2003 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whats up guys?why all the talk about fixing something that aint broke. This forum site has to be one of the best on the web...AND IT AINT BROKE! rob
icon6.gif Re: New Software??  [message #9275 is a reply to message #9274] Sun, 06 April 2003 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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because of some of the arguing on this site,many other webmasters would have easily bounced several from this site. It should be obvious to anyone that Timmy in his wisdom chose well.And because of that wisdom and forsight,this site has been made stronger.Please do not change a thing! rob
Re: New Software??  [message #9279 is a reply to message #9270] Sun, 06 April 2003 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But it is work for work's sake. We have things yet that still need to be fixed from the server migration. The "anyboard" software works. It is not the sexiest, nor the best. Nor is any software.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it



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Re: New Software??  [message #9283 is a reply to message #9279] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gee, was ONLY a suggestion...... Sad



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icon7.gif And a good one  [message #9284 is a reply to message #9283] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We should always be trying to make improvements.

t - mebbe a board FAQ link describing the known warts - like smith's (R), anonymity, archival, policies, ??
icon7.gif please don't get upset  [message #9285 is a reply to message #9283] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are not enough hours in the day to do everything. The suggestion is fine. There will always be newer, better, easier software. The main rule of developing a website is leave what works as a working model, fix what is broken, provide new stuff, and then consoider reworking the old.

Can you imagine, as well, how megaman would feel if I accepted all the kind offers of help, too?

I love all the good ideas. We just can't do it all. It took 2 man weeks to create this messagebaord in the way we wnated it. It is by no means a standard output of the anyboard software



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icon7.gif Re: And a good one  [message #9286 is a reply to message #9284] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tell you what. You email me the list of questions and I'll see what I can do. It isn't highest on my priorities list though, so please be patient. Please would you co-ordinate this (others please send him your list of Questions), and I'll work on the answers when you send me the FAQ list by email.



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You bet - send me your board questions  [message #9288 is a reply to message #9286] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so timmy can eventually compile an FAQ. Heck, send me your answers, too, if ya got 'em (looks toward southeast) cuz it's usually easier to hack someone else's work than create your own from scratch.

I think anyboy who's been around computers of any sort much knows that life is full of compromise!
icon14.gif And you've done a great job with it!  [message #9289 is a reply to message #9285] Sun, 06 April 2003 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon9.gif I didnt but was overwhelmed  [message #9293 is a reply to message #9285] Mon, 07 April 2003 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ALL I was suggesting is maybe a trial? you have enough room on ya server?? I just thought it might be easier to allow some things to be kept in certain areas away from eyes of passersby??


Maybe set up a beta forum like Dave from TGO did?? anyway, I am NOT trying to interfere ok?? Smile



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hugs ya  [message #9294 is a reply to message #9293] Mon, 07 April 2003 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we did set up a beta forum, about 18 months ago now, I think, when we stopped trusting voy.com to stay reliable or even in business.

What we wanted was a foirum that emulated, so far as is pososble, the old "insidetheweb" format which we had already implemented with voy. The other design concept was to be able to import all the old messages form the voy forum.

Then we spent about 10 days with the guys who were here at the time trying to break it and succeeding.

We managed to eliminate all the awkward things, inlcuding filtering scripts out, and many other little behind the scenes things that prevent someone from killing the place.

It has a few foibles, but messages don't get lost.

We started at the beginning with mssages that stayed "in order posted" but soon decidd that a new post should pop a tread to the top.

The only mysterious bit is why it refuses to let a page 2 thread go back topage one if a new post is made in it. But that is so deep inside the code as to be in a welded shut box.

When the host first let us have space we had no MySQL at all. They turned that on very recently. When Haiku Alley arrived that was because MySQL arrived. Anyboard does work with MySQL, but there is no point at present in changing to use it since the old HTML file structure works fine.

We have limited the messages to 100MB of disk space. To be fair we wonder what will happen when we hit 100MB, since the software does not document what it does at all! But then this is the free version. Buying it would be a step, but the free version works well enough not to require investment. Smile



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Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9299 is a reply to message #1049715027] Mon, 07 April 2003 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ash dont you dare run away and hide.

I NEED YOU HERE

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icon5.gif what happened tothe strong, self assured Ashley?  [message #9301 is a reply to message #1049715027] Mon, 07 April 2003 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd rather like him back, please.

My dear sweet boy, if you could not take it you would not be here. So stay.

You didn't get anything wrong. You expressed a set of kind and good thoughts.



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icon8.gif Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9302 is a reply to message #1049715027] Mon, 07 April 2003 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi everyone ..

I just want to say ..that I agree with Ashley ...he was only trying to help ...and nothing else ...

I will tell you this ...

Ashley is one of the kindest person there is ..and as always he was thinking of someone else .. he was just trying to make it easier for other to post here ..this is one of the reason I don't post here that often ..too much fighting and not enough caring for other s ... some of you guys are only thinking of yourself ..

Tim I am sorry if this upset you or someone else here ..
But you should know by now that Ashley would never do anything to hurt you or this place ..
He always talks very highly of you and your website ..

Well I said what I wanted too so now I will leave ..

Rick ..
Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9304 is a reply to message #9302] Tue, 08 April 2003 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am very sorry I upset Ashley or anyone else about my last post on this thread.I guess my acid tongue gets me in trouble again.Sorry Ashley. hugs rob
icon9.gif Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9305 is a reply to message #9304] Tue, 08 April 2003 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After some consideration.I find that I am a little pissed.Not all are equal here.Some are more equal than others.That really pisses me off! Every time that I have been wrong,I have had the guts to admit that. You dont hear me crying sour grapes when i get my toes stepped on.So stop crying Ashley,it sounds like bullying to me... rob
Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9306 is a reply to message #9305] Tue, 08 April 2003 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think Ashley or anyone here was bullying you or anyone ..

we were just trying to come up with ways of making it easlier and safer for other to post here that all ..Not everyone feels safe posting here and I know Ashley as others here was just trying to help them .. but if trying to help others is bullying ...then this will be my last post at this place ..
because I don't like all the fighting but I do like trying to help others so they don't feel like I do ... I know what its like to hurt and to be hurt my someone ..

here something to think about ..

We started to enjoy ours self and then all hell broke loose .. He started to get mean and stared to hit me and hurt me alot . I was caught off by it and I didn't have time to do anything . Its hurt alot when he did it and I just laid there , I just couldn't believe this was happen or he could really do this to me .
When he was done and ready to leave he looked at me and said thanks fag .. and then he left and that was it ..he left town slowly after that and I never seen him again .
I went on as nothing had happen and when back to being alone again . Knowing full well that it was my false and that I was too blame .


and I will tell you this ..it is because of Ashley that I can write and talk about what happen to me ... and its also because of Ashley and a few more that I am still here today ..

Well I guess you pissed me off too ... something that I haven't let someone do to me in a very long time .. thanks alot ..

I will leave now ... I am sorry you can't see when someone is trying to help ..
Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9307 is a reply to message #9306] Tue, 08 April 2003 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with you and did not mean to come down on anyone.I have read his posts and like the guy.He seems like a good friend.I guess I just took his comments the wrong way and that is MY fault--NOT HIS. If Timmy is reading this,please delete my comments.They seem to hurt people and I dont want to ever hurt people. rob
icon8.gif Re: Got it wrong......  [message #9308 is a reply to message #9307] Tue, 08 April 2003 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, you could be a valuable member of this community. I know you are capable of contributing to it in a positve manner. I have seen it. I understand that you have some problems that cause you to sometimes be hurtful. But please, you have got to stop this. The young persons like Ashley who come here are far too valuable for me to sit back and allow them to be hurt. I have no problem allowing you the space to work through your own issues, but I also cannot sit back and watch silently if you are going to hurt the younger members of this board. I know that you do apologize when you've said something hurtful. I am certain that the apologies are sincere. But at some point the need for such apologies should not be as great. I would urge you to re-read your comments BEFORE posting them. Delete them yourself if they are not making a positive contribution.

I do not usually speak out in these manners, but I just can not allow someone to hurt the young persons who come here.

I would normally close by saying "Think good thoughts" but in your case Rob, I will say:

WRITE good thoughts,
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everyone is far too sensitive  [message #9314 is a reply to message #9302] Tue, 08 April 2003 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why on earth would I be upset?

A decent and well thought out suggestion was made. I just said "no thank you"

Heck the whole point I wanted to make was that THIS is th eplace where people can come with confidence. That sort of vanished, didn't it?



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Just an idea.........  [message #9319 is a reply to message #9248] Tue, 08 April 2003 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would it be possible to add a feature into the existing message board that would allow a poster to proof read his input?

I have seen it done on other boards and they have, in the past, provided me with the opportunity to rethink and then alter my postings.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Short term poll; Outcome  [message #9320 is a reply to message #9270] Tue, 08 April 2003 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Fine the way we are" is the outcome.



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Re: Just an idea.........  [message #9321 is a reply to message #9319] Tue, 08 April 2003 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is there already. "Browser view" with the limitation that para breaks are not shown. Look at the bottom of the "post" window



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Re: Just an idea......... Okies....  [message #9323 is a reply to message #9321] Tue, 08 April 2003 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found it, but I had to find my glasses before I could see it.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Just an idea......... Okies....  [message #9324 is a reply to message #9323] Tue, 08 April 2003 10:54 Go to previous message
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It's for very small mistakes Smile



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