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mihangel
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Location: UK
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Charlie's plea for enlightenment prompted replies of various kinds. One strand led on to the argument, made very firmly by Cossie and Jack, that 'sex with kids is wrong'. As I read it, most posters on this board (including myself) would agree in condemning a large age difference. But it raises a parallel question: what if the age difference is small? In Britain, sex between males of 16 or above is legal, but if either is even a day under 16 it is not. One appreciates that legislation has to be very specific, and cannot take into account the infinite variety of individuals and circumstances. It cannot define cases where, for example, sex between two immature 16-year-olds might be more 'reprehensible' (for want of a better word) than between two mature 14-year-olds. Yet a large proportion of the stories on this site (and on Nifty, etc etc) deal with consensual underage sex, which is illegal. Whether or not the police do anything about such real-life cases as come to their notice is another matter altogether. It is still illegal.
On 29 October Tim raised this very question when he posted a survey ('Age of Sexual Consent': if you want to refresh your memory, it's under Resources). Most curiously it seems to have generated no correspondence whatever on this board. He argued that sex between boys of similar age should be permitted, while pointing out the possible danger if one were, say, 15 and the other 12. He therefore proposed a sliding scale of age difference which could be permissible, from age 12 upwards. The survey results show that 30-odd percent feel that if there has to be a fixed age of consent, 16 is the right one. But 60 percent approved Tim's notion of a sliding scale.
As a community we do not hugely disapprove of consensual underage sex, it seems, since we read stories about it, and occasionally write them. And it happens in real life, too. But few people who do live in the real as opposed to the fictional world are going to crusade for a lowering of the age of consent, let alone press for the adoption of Tim's sensitive and logical proposal, simply because neither is practical politics.
So - at least if we belong to the 60 percent who approve Tim's sliding scale or something like it - do we merely use it as our own private moral yardstick by which we make judgments? Or do we judge individual instances, whether in real life or in fiction, by simple instinct: that this one is laudable where that one is irresponsible or exploitative or whatever?
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Age of consent
By: mihangel on Wed, 16 January 2002 16:02 |
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Re: Age of consent
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Re: Age of consent..... Again
By: marc on Wed, 16 January 2002 21:49 |
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Re: Age of consent..... Again
By: charlie on Thu, 17 January 2002 01:30 |
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Re: Age of consent..... Again
By: marc on Thu, 17 January 2002 12:52 |
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Re: Age of consent
By: charlie on Thu, 17 January 2002 01:33 |
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Re: Age of consent
By: mihangel on Thu, 17 January 2002 16:37 |
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The more I thought the tougher the problem became
By: tim on Sat, 19 January 2002 18:12 |
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Re: No, I can't answer any of these questions ...
By: mihangel on Sun, 20 January 2002 02:23 |
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The answer is what the paramaters of the law allow... there, I believe it would be 16 & 32
By: marc on Sun, 20 January 2002 14:31 |
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Sliding Scale
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Sexual Minors
By: charlie on Fri, 18 January 2002 02:32 |
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Thoughts in transit ....
By: cossie on Sun, 20 January 2002 03:58 |
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Re: Thoughts in transit ....
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Guilt
By: Guest on Sun, 20 January 2002 09:43 |
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It seems so many people have a problem with someone voicing a personal opinion.....
By: marc on Sun, 20 January 2002 13:24 |
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Guilt, GWG, Age etc
By: tim on Sun, 20 January 2002 15:05 |
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Well, as far as my feelings and the law.... I think you know they are in concert...
By: marc on Sun, 20 January 2002 17:18 |
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actually...
By: brian on Sun, 20 January 2002 20:02 |
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Which Laws?
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Civil vs Moral Disobedience
By: charlie on Sun, 20 January 2002 19:35 |
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Fine, you asked for an ethical annalysis, you'll get one.....
By: marc on Sun, 20 January 2002 19:44 |
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Facts versus Beliefs
By: Guest on Mon, 21 January 2002 01:27 |
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Refusal to pay ones taxes do not compare to ones manipulation of a child into bed... But...
By: marc on Mon, 21 January 2002 02:04 |
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Another Opinion
By: charlie on Mon, 21 January 2002 05:32 |
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Thanks Charlie...
By: Guest on Mon, 21 January 2002 11:21 |
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A finely tunes sense......???
By: marc on Mon, 21 January 2002 13:45 |
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Re: A finely tuned sense......???
By: Guest on Mon, 21 January 2002 15:46 |
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As far as control goes.....
By: marc on Mon, 21 January 2002 23:35 |
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Re: As far as control goes.....
By: Guest on Tue, 22 January 2002 02:24 |
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I'm waiting breathlessly!
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Did I goof?
By: charlie on Tue, 22 January 2002 06:36 |
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Well.......OK here goes...... :-\
By: marc on Tue, 22 January 2002 15:21 |
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Re: Well.......OK here goes...... :-\
By: Guest on Wed, 23 January 2002 01:37 |
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Legal Information
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I added it to my resources list..... Well done..... and any more info would be appreciated...
By: Guest on Mon, 21 January 2002 23:50 |
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Re: I added it to my resources list..... Well done..... and any more info would be appreciated...
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Cameron urged to sack MP who questioned age of consent
By: timmy on Thu, 24 June 2010 16:51 |
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Re: Cameron urged to sack MP who questioned age of consent
By: saben on Thu, 24 June 2010 18:31 |
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Re: Cameron urged to sack MP who questioned age of consent
By: acam on Thu, 24 June 2010 19:41 |
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Re: Cameron urged to sack MP who questioned age of consent
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Re: Cameron urged to sack MP who questioned age of consent
By: acam on Fri, 25 June 2010 07:20 |
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Interesting.
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