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I think I liked this one best:
*I will not hang doughnuts on my person
Hahaa!  Thanks for the manymany giggles you just gave me...!
Hugs:
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
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Yeah, smith and Lennie...I AM in a pretty good mood these days, aside from worrying about being poor...and to prove it, here's a funny from one of my cousins...supposedly all true, of course these things ALWAYS are...
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>>In Lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex
>>with animals, but the animals must be female. Having sexual relations
>with
>>a
>>male animal is punishable by
>>death. (Like THAT makes sense.)
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>>In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a
>>woman's genitals, but is prohibited from looking
>>directly at them during the examination. He may only see their
>reflection
>>in
>>a mirror. (Do they look
>>different reversed?)
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>>Muslims are banned from looking at the genitals of
>>a corpse. This also applies to undertakers; the sex
>>organs of the deceased must be covered with a brick or piece of wood at
>all
>>times. (A brick??)
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>>The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is
>>decapitation. (Much worse than "going blind!")
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>>There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to
>>travel the countryside and deflower young virgins,
>>who pay them for the privilege of having sex for the
>>first time...Reason: under Guam law, it is expressly
>>forbidden for virgins to marry. (Let's just think
>>for a minute; is there any job anywhere else in the
>>world, that even comes close to this?)
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>>In Hong Kong, a betrayed wife is legally allowed to
>>kill her adulterous husband, but may only do so with her bare hands. The
>>husband's lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.
>>(Ah! Justice!)
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>>Topless saleswomen are legal in Liverpool,
>>England- but only in tropical fish stores. (But of course!)
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>>In Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the
>>First
>>time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the act.
>>(Makes one shudder at the thought.)
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>>In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to
>>have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time. (I presume this
>>was
>>a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)
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>>In Maryland, it is illegal to sell condoms from
>>vending machines with one exception: prophylactics may be dispensed from
>a
>>vending machine only "in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for
>>consumption on the premises." (Is this a great
>>country or what? Not as great as Guam!)
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>>Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. (Who
>volunteers
>>for this stuff?)
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>>Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (Is
>>that why Flipper was always smiling?)
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>>The strongest muscle in the body is the
>>tongue...(Hummm....I won't touch THAT one!)
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>>The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull
>>30 times its own weight and always falls over on its
>>right side when intoxicated. (From drinking little
>>bottles of...? -- did the govt. pay for this
>>research??)
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>>Butterflies taste with their feet. (Ah, geez)
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>>And, the best for last.....
>>Turtles can breathe through their butts. (Do you
>>think they have bad breath?)
>>
>> Where are the applications for Guam???
>
>
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... which smith was discussing before he got sidetracked into schoolboy frivolities.
The Vestal Virgins lived in the Temple of Vesta. One of its principal pieces of furniture was a large erect phallus (to remind them of what they were missing?).
Surprisingly it doesn't feature in Carry On Cleo (because it's a family film?). But the film does record Caesar's most famous saying, when he, um, penetrates the Vestal Virgins' abode and is treacherously attacked there - "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy."
Another odd thing about the Vestal Virgins. When they went out for a breath of air, "it was a capital offence to pass beneath their litter in the street" (law not very clearly phrased?)
Incidentally, the Latin for a large erect phallus is fascinum, whence "fascinating" (hmmmmmmmm). Seriously.
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>>In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman and her daughter at the same time. (I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this law?)<<
Maybe they are very, very religious. See Leviticus 20:14.
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You may have something there, David. This may well explain why it is that Guam is only a U.S. possession, not a full-fledged state. Can't you just hear Mr. Falwell and Company's scanalized reaction to that very notion?
As I post this, the Ides of March have passed (in this corner of the world, anyway). Thanks to smith's guidance, we've made it through unscathed!
We do not remember days...we remember moments.
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Perhaps there was some purpose behind Mr. Spock's favorite phrase. Especially when you consider that Vulcans only mate once every seven years. Large erect phalluses must have been on his mind quite frequently.
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Note that neither this Bolivian law nor Leviticus prohibit a man to have sex with a woman and her son. 
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Think I remember who Mr Spock is (as opposed to Dr Spock, who was concerned only with babies, which probably aren't relevant here). But can you remind me of his favourite phrase?
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In fact:
facinium : fascino: To bewitch, envy
fascination : facina - oris: bad deed, crime, villany/deed, action
ficinarose : viciously, scandalously
Phal(l)us : pharetra : a quiver.
phasma phasmatis : ghost, spirit, specter
Source, Latin department, University of Notre Dame
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Sorry, mate. Notre Dame must be very prudish. Fascinum does mean phallus. Sure, and bewitchment too - a phallic emblem warded off evil spells. Well, it was supposed to. Someone ought to run a test to see if it really works.
Facinus etc is a totally different word. Phallus is Greek, not Latin. (Source: Lewis & Short and the Oxford Latin Dictionary, both of which are so enormous they need a crane to lift them.)
You ought to read Petronius' Satyricon, a Latin novel which is quite a hoot. And quite hot, too. A nice scene in the baths, where Eumolpus, a gay poet, is thrown out for reciting his poetry. In contrast, there's also a young man who's lost his clothes. "A large crowd surrounded him with applause and awestruck admiration. You see, he had such enormous equipment that you'd think the man was just an attachment to his penis (fascinum)." When someone lent him some clothes and took him home "to enjoy such a piece of luck on his own," Eumolpus is pissed off because "a polished wick pays better than a polished wit."
Later on, a naughty priestess of Priapus the fertility god "brought out a leather dildo (fascinum) of the sort whores use, and rubbed it with oil and ground pepper and nettle seed, and gradually inserted it up my anus." She then whipped his willy with a nettle. Hmmmm. Fascinating indeed.
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... for educating me. My reading/viewing is a tad out of date. Mind you, even the human version can be mind-stripping and civilised-veneer-ripping too. As well as more frequent
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Spock was indeed one "fascinating" character.
Back when I was about your age, we used to play "phisben(sp?)." The card game that Kirk and Spock used to confused their Iotian captors in the episode "A Piece of the Action." I think that might just be my all time favorite episode.
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I took Latin. I missed that part in my textbook. Rats!! All we read about was farmers taking their grain to market. We use on-line translators........The funniest one is an indexing-search system created by Chong-fuk Lau. I kid you not.
Ergane on-line says that one Latin word for penis is fascinum.
Have a great day 
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fascinum
in SUFFIX
-ine; -in; of, pertaining/belonging to; connected with; derived/coming from
fascin.um ADJ 1 1 NOM S N POS
fascin.um ADJ 1 1 ACC S M POS
fascin.um ADJ 1 1 ACC S N POS
fasc, fascis N M
bundles of rods (w/ax) (pl.), carried before the highest magistrates of Rome;
fascis, fascis N M
bundle, faggot; packet, parcel; rods with an ax -> symbol of authority (pl.);
in SUFFIX
-ing; art or craft (medic.ina = art of doctoring)
fascin.um N 1 1 GEN P F uncommon
fascin.um N 1 1 GEN P F uncommon
fasc, fascis N M
bundles of rods (w/ax) (pl.), carried before the highest magistrates of Rome;
fascis, fascis N M
bundle, faggot; packet, parcel; rods with an ax -> symbol of authority (pl.);
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Ok.... but I still see no connection to a penis... Unless you obscure the root from the implied connection to a rod which could of course be the case.
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Did you know that all translations in Ergane go through an Esperanto base as they pass from one language to another? (What useless knowledge I have!)
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Oh yes, I loved "The Guardian of Forever." It's odd that I really liked those episodes because I usually don't like sci-fi episodes where the characters go back in time or find parallel unverses or societies that closely mimc Earth from the past.
Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are certainly the best characters (perhaps along with Data) from all the Star Trek series. But I think that overall I liked TNG better.
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You're an Old Series fan? Wow, that's so cool!
I always did think you were beyond your years - in some repects at least!
My favorite character out of all the series is probably the grumpy Dr. McCoy. Sadly, he's passed away as you most likely know...
I do enjoy Deep Space Nine the most so far though. It is kinda dark and gritty, and I like that.
-L
PS: Please, let us talk again when you can.
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Sorry, again.
Afraid I've only got five Latin dictionaries. But they give:
Lewis & Short (1880, a blushful era, unwilling to translate into English): Fascinum (occ. fascinus), A. membrum virile, B. a kind of sea-shell (from its shape) (both supported by a number of quotations). Maybe connected to Greek baskanos.
Oxford Latin Dictionary (1982, brave new open world): Fascinum (occ. fascinus), a. penis, b. phallic emblem, c. kind of sea-shell (further quotations). Same possible derivation.
The other three dictionaries (shorter) all say the same, more briefly.
Fascis, "bundle (of rods), faggot (!)"; fascia, "band"; fascio "I bind" are from a quite different root, maybe connected to Greek phakelos.
One quotation for fascinum is from Horace, lamenting his droops - languet fascinum. Viagra hadn't been invented then (no, it's not in any Latin dictionary). But it's only just struck me. Horace's cognomen (surname, often based on a nickname) was Flaccus. Same as flaccidus, "drooping." Hmmm, hmmm.
As for the phallic emblems, they're common, either inscribed on buildings or in the form of charms or trinkets. Sometimes with wings. Ocasionally with a pair of little wheels looking like a golf-club-trolley thing. Or drawn on shithouse walls - the Romans were just like us. There's a lovely graffito from Pompeii, among lots of other graffiti: "Hey, wall! Surprised you haven't collapsed under the weight of all these scribbles."
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OK, Trekkies...
What WAS the "trouble with tribbles"? What were they, and what did they eat?
Now we'll see who's got their Star Trek trivia hats on!! Hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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Wow! I didn't realize there were so many "Star Trek" fans here! Alright!
"A Piece of the Action" (like "The Trouble with Tribbles") was one of the few "comic" episodes (and one of my favorites, too). My favorite scene was in "Boss" Oxmyx's office when Kirk made him phone the other "bosses" so that Scotty could transport them all there. When the first one appears (crying, "Mother!"), Oxmyx looks at Kirk and says, "Hey Kirk, that ain't bad!". Spock, wielding a machine gun, aims it at Oxmyx and says, "I would advise yez to keep dialin', Oxmyx!", using his best "gangster" delivery. I'm convinced that Leonard Nimoy did that as a joke, thinking it would go right to the "blooper" reel; leaving it in, though, made the scene even funnier, I think, especially since just before that Kirk had to keep "prompting" Spock to use "gangster lingo". Another favorite scene comes earlier with that street kid offering to help them get into "Boss" Krako's headquarters, in exchange for "a piece of the action." "Young man," Spock says, "You don't even know what the 'action' is." "I figure it must be a pretty large percentage," the kid replies, "otherwise you wouldn't be taking such a big chance." Spock's eyebrows go up, he nods his head and says, "Logical."
One of the things that made "Star Trek" a cut above the ordinary was that it didn't rely on science fiction to tell a good story. "City on the Edge of Forever" was a good example of that; science fiction may have been the catalyst, but the doomed relationship between Kirk and Edith Keeler was what it was all about. Even this episode had its touches of humor. There they are, in 1930s New York, and Kirk expects Spock to get his tricorder working. "In this zinc-plated vacuum-tube culture?" Spock retorts. "You are asking me to do so using materials that are just barely advanced beyond stone knives and bearskins." Later, Edith accidentally catches a look at the monstrosity Spock is constructing, and asks, "What on earth is that?!" "I am endeavoring, ma'am," Spock replies with a straight face", to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins."
Also among their best espisodes were the ones where Spock's human side peeks through, and "Amok Time" was one of those (it showed what truly great friends Kirk, Spock and McCoy were). Another is "The Devil in the Dark", where you get a sense that Spock, while in the mind-meld with the Horta, most acutely felt with the deepest compassion her pain and suffering.
I can just hear the "non-Trekkies" saying, "What the hell is he babbling about there?", so I'll cease and desist (for now, anyway!).
Any other fellow "Trekkies" care to share any of their memories and thoughts?
We do not remember days...we remember moments.
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\\\ // Live long and prosper, all of you here! (Thanks, smith)
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I agree... But what came first, it inferance to the rod or the penal definition?
I know it is like asking which came first, the chicken or the egg? But surely, something had to prompt the connection.
Just my curiosity,
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"...where they'll be no tribble at all?" The "where" of course being aboard the Klingon ship. However, I'd bet the Klingons would disagree since the only time those little furballs were disagreable was in the presence of Klingons.
I don't remember the name of the episode, but remember the one where Bones helps a chieftain's wife deliver a baby and is found by Spock holding the baby and speaking in baby-talk. Spock turns to Kirk and repeats McCoys utterance with a completely straight face, "Oochie, woochie, hoochie coo?"
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I think I was a few years younger than you, smith, when I made tribbles for my sisters for chistmas. I sewed up some of that furry material into a cube with a zipper, made a special circuit to put in the middle, and stuffed them until round. The circuit made a cute little noise when you shook or jostled them. I custom made mercury switches to start them. I think there have been commerically available ones that jump a bit when you sqeeze an air bulb on a hose.
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and she named the baby Leonard James.......
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Have a great week yourself.
Missin ya,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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Which of the Star Trek movies was your favorite, Trekkies?
Mine was #4...where they go back in time to save the whales. Lots of good scenes in that one. Checkov asking in his best Russian accent, "Where are your nuclear wess-als?"
And of course Scottie holding the "primitive" computer mouse like a microphone and saying, "Computer...? Computer!!"
Oh, this is fun...
LL & P \\ ///
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...and the reasons you mentioned only scratch the surface.
For one thing, it's a "comedy" which nevertheless teaches us a very important lesson (a lesson which, sadly, too many people still refuse to learn).
Some of my other favorite scenes include McCoy complaining disgustedly about the "primitive" and "barbaric" medical procedures that pass for "state of the art" at the hospital Chekov is taken to (and, of course, there's that "little old lady" for whom he provides a "miracle" cure). Then there's Spock (of course!), only recently returned to life and getting back his "katrah", walking around San Francisco wearing a sackcloth robe and bandana (just like in the "good ol' days of the '60s!), learning about and using "colorful metaphors", and thinking nothing of wading into a pool with two whales in it and engaging in a Vulcan mind-meld with them ("Maizie is pregnant.")
Perhaps my favorite scene of all comes at the end, when Spock and his father Sarek (at long last!) reach a final reconciliation (Sarek admitting he was wrong to oppose Spock's choice of career, and wrong about his opinion of Spock's colleagues and friends).
And, of course, there's Scotty's exuberant exclamation when the whales (and some sea water) have been transported aboard the ship so they can be taken to the 23rd century: "Captain! There be whales here!"
Let's all hope we can always be able to say that.
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*The Kobayashi Maru - the no-win scenario test
*Khan arms the Genesis torpedo and Spock goes into the radiation chamber
*Spock touches McCoy's forehead and whispers "Remember"
*Spock says not to mourn because his sacrifice is logical
*Scotty playing Amazing Grace on the bagpipes
***And the words that I try to live by....."The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few...or the one
I was going through a really tough patch when I saw this movie and Spock became my ideal of how to get from point A to point B without pain....others come first became my motto and has remained so. I literaly became Spock and much of him remains in me now. Whoa....TMI
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But not for any reason as profound as yours. I just thought it was the best acted, directed, written, and produced. There were a lot of really great quotes too. How about Khan's vengful declarations:
"From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee." and
"I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up!"
LL&P
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...I think you're right, too (even more so).
While "#4" taught a lesson about us as a planetary whole, #2 taught a lesson about us as individuals.
When Spock touched the unconscious McCoy's forehead and whispered, "Remember", it spoke volumes. McCoy wasn't just the closest convenient mind to meld with. In spite of all their bickering, Spock and McCoy still thought of each other as friends; so much so that Spock trusted McCoy with his "katrah", otherwise he would have let it die with him (it's at the beginning of "#3" that we learn from Spock's father Sarek how important a thing that is to a Vulcan).
Before Scotty plays "Amazing Grace" on his bagpipes (what a beautiful tribute that is!), Kirk ends his eulogy by saying, "He did not consider this sacrifice a vain or foolish one, and we shall not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, all I can say is, 'Of all the souls I've encountered in my travels, his was the most [...] human'."
That was one of the (many) remarkable things about "Star Trek": the way it presented the true meaning of humanity through "non-humans" like Spock (and, in "The Next Generation", Data). Not a bad choice for a role model, smith (not bad at all); and I think Gene Roddenberry would have been most touched to know it helped to get you through a bad time and become so important to you.
"The needs of the many [do indeed] outweigh the needs of the few (or the one)." It seems, sadly, that some of our world leaders, in their arrogance, refuse to realize this most basic human tenet. Let's hope that arrogance doesn't force us into having to confront a "Kobiyashi Maru" scenario.
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