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In another thread, Lenny mentioned the possibility of same sex couples having children via modern technology. Of course two males would not be able to do so, only two females. And, as Lenny mentioned, the resulting child could not be male since the Y chromosome is carried only by the male.
Tying this idea to the conversation about religion, I can foresee a time when a religion could arise holding a definite female bias and attracting females in large numbers by offering education and employment to females who would otherwise be disadvantaged in a male dominated society such as ours. The religion could allow sex with males, but not marriage or procreation. Instead it would encourage all female couples producing all female offspring. In time this could result in a decrease in the male birthrate which would obviously result in a much smaller percentage of the population being male. As the male population dwindles, so would the male advantage in wealth and power. Females would rule the world. Could the male existence become relegated to providing sexual pleasure to females?
I know this is a strange question to pose on a board populated by male homosexuals, but I am interested in hearing thoughts on the matter. I've been kicking around the idea of writing a futuristic sci-fi story based on this premise and what life might be like for homosexual (and even heterosexual) males in such a world.
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NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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... exactly one of my favorite ideas either.
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Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Sorry Marc. I didn't mean to be that upsetting.
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we already live in a world that is strongly dominated by females or at the very least,a society that worships the female gender. When this book is written,I hope that one would give equal effort to the flip side of the coin...Males giving birth.
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Sometimes I feel like I already live in that world. Erm, well.
Didn't I read something about work on creating an artificial womb such that a male could carry a fetus? Of course it would require a C-section, or zipper or something. Personally, I think it would be a fantastic experience.
If you unmarried guys ever get the chance to be someone's birthing partner - do it. It does give one new respect for both women and nature. Puppies are just not quite the same.
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Males giving birth is not likely to happen. Once the physical alteration is done, the "male" would most likely be considered "female." A more likely scenario for allowing males to reproduce without females is an artificial "womb" that could be implanted with an embryo created from the DNA of two men.
It is possible to argue that women already dominate our society. There are many well-known cases of male leaders being heavily influenced by the women in their lives. However, men for the most part, control the power and the weatlth in today's world.
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I find the idea interesting, but also horrifying to think that as a gender we could become extinct or relegated to a more or less useless role in society.
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The first chapter is outlined in my head and I'm beginning to get it down on disk space. It's mostly an educational chapter meant to set up the rest of the story and make the scenario seem believeable to the reader. I introduce some of the characters and try to reveal as much of the history of the eveolution of the female dominated society as I can without becoming boring. One of the key elements in assisting the development of this society is the legalizationa and acceptance of same sex marraiges. It kind of falls into the category of "Be careful what you ask for..."
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ya but there are a lot of pussy-whipped wimps out worshipping the ground women walk on.Maybe if men could give birth,that would level the playing field.We would be giving some of the FEMENAZIES something to cry about. rob
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Never did it..... Never will...... Nope.... I won't do it.....
No way.... And you can't make me....
NNNNNNOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Way.......
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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means that come feeding time, I had no problem taking my granddaughter out of her mother's arms and holding the bottle. But come changing time, I also had no problem replacing her into her mother's arms.
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I'd probably read the story, knowing that it wasn't going to be pleasent for me. Reminds me of a story I read a while ago on Nifty, the title something like "Men Forward", may not be exactly correct, anybody else remember it?
Gay guy needs to be cryogenically deep frozen until some hundreds of years in the future, awakened to a new society in which being gay can be cured by injection of some hormones. The new society is remarkably well described...males are more assertive, boys are raised in "packs" or small groups, women are happily in the back seat. All this is dreadful to the poor guy trying to adjust to it.
His task in the story is to decide whether to remain "himself" and gay, likely very lonely and outcast, or to take the treatment and become happily hetero...then he is given the treatment secretly and begins to notice the changes in himself...I'll leave the ending for those interested to go look for it.
Anybody else remember where this story is, the author, or when it may have been posted...I have problems finding and remembering stories that I read once and then can't find again. Shoulda put it on a floppy...
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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What kind of males are we talking about here? - e-males?
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I don't know that story, be would be interested in reading it should you locate it. Sounds to be a future almost opposite of the one in my story.
I would be interewsted in some commentary on my story if you or other authors published here on the site would like to get a preview. I'm in the middle of chapter two which is where my two main characters are about to meet. What I've written so far introduces those characters and begins to explain the evolution of the feminist society. Males are treated like pets, but the discipline is quite harsh. However, I think I have countered the harshness with a pair of very cute and adorable boys who will pose quite a challenge to the teachings of the Feminist Church that has gained control of society. Don't expect miracles, these boys aren't going to change the world. But they are going to demonstrate that boys have an indomitable spirit that shines through even the most difficult circumstances.
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But there are A-males and N-males. Better known as "arts" and "nats," slang for "artificially conceived" and "naturally conceived."
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Fantastic post! All males should be forced to change a few babies.What an effective method of birth control... Rob
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