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Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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rbryce
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Registered: January 1970
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Perhaps God created women to make mens lives hell! rob
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smith
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Is it THAT bad??? I'm sorry but what the guy was saying was sooo funny (smith ducks cause some of you are married) but just ewwww !!
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Location: currently So Cal
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It's not THAT bad. But sometimes it gets close, very close.
Think good thoughts,
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It's not THAT bad. But sometimes it gets close, very close.
Think good thoughts,
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I agree, with you "e"...it couldn't possibly be that bad...but smith, friend, be sure not to be trapped by one of those females who like to accompany you here and there in your current situation...(unless you happen to fall madly in love or something like that...)
Even in long term male couples, some of that is likely, just cuz nobody is permanently in the mood, permanently feeling available. I laughed out loud at the line about the poor guy getting cramps in his toes...
I talked to a gay couple yesterday who came with a sex problem to discuss. Kind of a classic problem, as anybody with their lover for longer than the initial honeymoon period can attest. One of them likes to have sex more often than the other one, and feels frustrated. The other one likes sex just fine, but feels a lot of pressure to do it more often than he would otherwise, just to make his partner happy.
I asked the logical question, "How much would be enough?" The "more often" guy would like it every day but would be "make do" with every other day. The "less often guy" would be happier with once or twice per week. These guys are in their thirties and have been together 7 or 8 years, something like that. So we'll be having some more discussions about it, and I'll encourage them to focus on quality more than quantity...how to show love and connection other than in bed...just the common sense stuff.
I also recall a group of gay adolescents I once facilitated in New York City. These were 13-15 average urban gay kids, some experienced, some not, some with boyfriends, some not yet, some rich, some from the suburbs, some street youth. They once had a discussion about "levels of horniness", promiscuity, and such.
The conclusion they reached that day was really funny. Somebody was considered promiscuious if they had more sex than YOU had had...and was considered a "slut" if they wanted more sex than you did...One very cute 14 year old virgin from the 'burbs made a comment something like, "Jeez, guys, is sex really worth all this bother?" The unanymous reply shook the rafters: "YES!!" hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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I agree, with you "e"...it couldn't possibly be that bad...but smith, friend, be sure not to be trapped by one of those females who like to accompany you here and there in your current situation...(unless you happen to fall madly in love or something like that...)
Even in long term male couples, some of that is likely, just cuz nobody is permanently in the mood, permanently feeling available. I laughed out loud at the line about the poor guy getting cramps in his toes...
I talked to a gay couple yesterday who came with a sex problem to discuss. Kind of a classic problem, as anybody with their lover for longer than the initial honeymoon period can attest. One of them likes to have sex more often than the other one, and feels frustrated. The other one likes sex just fine, but feels a lot of pressure to do it more often than he would otherwise, just to make his partner happy.
I asked the logical question, "How much would be enough?" The "more often" guy would like it every day but would be "make do" with every other day. The "less often guy" would be happier with once or twice per week. These guys are in their thirties and have been together 7 or 8 years, something like that. So we'll be having some more discussions about it, and I'll encourage them to focus on quality more than quantity...how to show love and connection other than in bed...just the common sense stuff.
I also recall a group of gay adolescents I once facilitated in New York City. These were 13-15 average urban gay kids, some experienced, some not, some with boyfriends, some not yet, some rich, some from the suburbs, some street youth. They once had a discussion about "levels of horniness", promiscuity, and such.
The conclusion they reached that day was really funny. Somebody was considered promiscuious if they had more sex than YOU had had...and was considered a "slut" if they wanted more sex than you did...One very cute 14 year old virgin from the 'burbs made a comment something like, "Jeez, guys, is sex really worth all this bother?" The unanymous reply shook the rafters: "YES!!" hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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I agree, with you "e"...it couldn't possibly be that bad...but smith, friend, be sure not to be trapped by one of those females who like to accompany you here and there in your current situation...(unless you happen to fall madly in love or something like that...)
Even in long term male couples, some of that is likely, just cuz nobody is permanently in the mood, permanently feeling available. I laughed out loud at the line about the poor guy getting cramps in his toes...
I talked to a gay couple yesterday who came with a sex problem to discuss. Kind of a classic problem, as anybody with their lover for longer than the initial honeymoon period can attest. One of them likes to have sex more often than the other one, and feels frustrated. The other one likes sex just fine, but feels a lot of pressure to do it more often than he would otherwise, just to make his partner happy.
I asked the logical question, "How much would be enough?" The "more often" guy would like it every day but would be "make do" with every other day. The "less often guy" would be happier with once or twice per week. These guys are in their thirties and have been together 7 or 8 years, something like that. So we'll be having some more discussions about it, and I'll encourage them to focus on quality more than quantity...how to show love and connection other than in bed...just the common sense stuff.
I also recall a group of gay adolescents I once facilitated in New York City. These were 13-15 average urban gay kids, some experienced, some not, some with boyfriends, some not yet, some rich, some from the suburbs, some street youth. They once had a discussion about "levels of horniness", promiscuity, and such.
The conclusion they reached that day was really funny. Somebody was considered promiscuious if they had more sex than YOU had had...and was considered a "slut" if they wanted more sex than you did...One very cute 14 year old virgin from the 'burbs made a comment something like, "Jeez, guys, is sex really worth all this bother?" The unanymous reply shook the rafters: "YES!!" hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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I agree, with you "e"...it couldn't possibly be that bad...but smith, friend, be sure not to be trapped by one of those females who like to accompany you here and there in your current situation...(unless you happen to fall madly in love or something like that...)
Even in long term male couples, some of that is likely, just cuz nobody is permanently in the mood, permanently feeling available. I laughed out loud at the line about the poor guy getting cramps in his toes...
I talked to a gay couple yesterday who came with a sex problem to discuss. Kind of a classic problem, as anybody with their lover for longer than the initial honeymoon period can attest. One of them likes to have sex more often than the other one, and feels frustrated. The other one likes sex just fine, but feels a lot of pressure to do it more often than he would otherwise, just to make his partner happy.
I asked the logical question, "How much would be enough?" The "more often" guy would like it every day but would be "make do" with every other day. The "less often guy" would be happier with once or twice per week. These guys are in their thirties and have been together 7 or 8 years, something like that. So we'll be having some more discussions about it, and I'll encourage them to focus on quality more than quantity...how to show love and connection other than in bed...just the common sense stuff.
I also recall a group of gay adolescents I once facilitated in New York City. These were 13-15 average urban gay kids, some experienced, some not, some with boyfriends, some not yet, some rich, some from the suburbs, some street youth. They once had a discussion about "levels of horniness", promiscuity, and such.
The conclusion they reached that day was really funny. Somebody was considered promiscuious if they had more sex than YOU had had...and was considered a "slut" if they wanted more sex than you did...One very cute 14 year old virgin from the 'burbs made a comment something like, "Jeez, guys, is sex really worth all this bother?" The unanymous reply shook the rafters: "YES!!" hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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smith
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Registered: January 1970
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saben
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I must say even though the problems with the women sound bad, the arguements used by the women are pretty damn accurate too, I've experience a few of them on both sides of the coin myself ....
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
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That's funny about the 14 y.o. I once counseled a group of adolescents and one guy about 13 or 14 was being teased by some of the others for being a virgin. His response was "I'm glad I'm not mature yet, I don't have to worry about jackin' off all the time." Mind you that this was in a residential school where finding the privacy to jack off was difficult and more than one guy complained about it.
Think good thoughts,
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On fire! |
Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
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That's funny about the 14 y.o. I once counseled a group of adolescents and one guy about 13 or 14 was being teased by some of the others for being a virgin. His response was "I'm glad I'm not mature yet, I don't have to worry about jackin' off all the time." Mind you that this was in a residential school where finding the privacy to jack off was difficult and more than one guy complained about it.
Think good thoughts,
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Toe is in the water |
Location: Netherlands
Registered: April 2002
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Maybe it's the other way around......... Maybe the Goddess created men as a joke............. (str8 ones anyway ;P)
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ien
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Toe is in the water |
Location: Netherlands
Registered: April 2002
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Maybe it's the other way around......... Maybe the Goddess created men as a joke............. (str8 ones anyway ;P)
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On fire! |
Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
Messages: 1179
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It seems I'm still getting the error message when I try to post but it is posting anyway. It's just taking some time before the post is showing up and I'm posting again because I thought it didn't work the first time.
Think good thoughts,
Think good thoughts,
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I often feel like a joke.
A bad one at that I might add.
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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rbryce
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Registered: January 1970
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You guys are taking this too seriously.Just remember that GOD has a sense of humor and a well-honed sense of justice.Please remember that there are serious consequences for MANS folly. r
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