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icon8.gif This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9720] Sun, 20 April 2003 13:17 Go to next message
timmy

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By "grooming" I mean the subtle preparation of someone for an act or regime that he or she was unprepared for, or would under normal circumstance be unwilling to undergo. It is a term often used in the prosecution of paedophiles. It is a stealthy process that sometimes takes years. A number of peple here in their history have been victims of grooming. And it sucks.

It has come to my attention that one of us is performing this subtle process on others at present, by instant messenger and chat rooms and by emails. The process is subtle enough that the target will not realise what is happening until sucked in to things that he or she neither anticipated nor wanted.

I have no concerns over consenting adults walking towards each other with their eyes wide open. They may do as they wish.

I have major concerns when the perosn being groomed is too young to understand the implications of what is being done, let alone the legaility of it.

I am appalled that this is being done through this place. I am not yet going to name the groomer. I will if he does not cease at once from this and makes sure that I know he has stopped. This is not a children's game, and I am not playing, here.

I have spoken quietly to the parties concerned. It seems still to be going on, so now I am speaking publicly to the perpetrator. It is time to stop your acts. Especially with minors. It is not innocent fun.



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icon8.gif Re: This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9723 is a reply to message #9720] Sun, 20 April 2003 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rbryce is currently offline  rbryce

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What is GROOMING ? This is one of the most ambiguious posts I have ever read.What the heck is going on? Reading these last two posts and rereading them,they just dont make sense to me. All I hear is a lot of lashing out that does not make sense and seems very threatning. This is not like you Timmy. rob
Stalkers?  [message #9725 is a reply to message #9723] Sun, 20 April 2003 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ashley is currently offline  ashley

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Sounds like someone is stalking a younger member and Tim is not happy about that. It is reference only so the person can STOP.. it isnt nice at all... Sad



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Re: This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9726 is a reply to message #9720] Sun, 20 April 2003 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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How is what goes on by way of instant messenger and chat rooms and by emails in places away from here affecting you?

Just curious.....

And.....
This kind of thing goes on all the time and don't think it does not happen here as well as any other place where unsuspecting youth congregate.

Any time an adult breaches the line from a message board to real time communication where there is a closed or "private" line of communication there is a chance of foul intent.

It is impossible to know who you are talking to online. It is easy for an adult to pass himself off as a child in order to lure in prey. It is also possible for an adult to pass onesself off as a child in order to lure in an adult as prey as well......



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon4.gif for the avoidance of doubt  [message #9727 is a reply to message #9723] Sun, 20 April 2003 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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  • This is like me when a person's safety is threatened
  • Grooming is precisely the befriending and grooming of another person into habits and practices that are not natural to them, usually an adult with a minor
  • I am not lashing out. But you will have to make your own mind up on that
  • I am totally serious about what I will do if this does not cease



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Re: This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9730 is a reply to message #9726] Sun, 20 April 2003 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I don't think we need to tunr this into a long thread about the rights and wrongs. It affects me in no way personally at all. Except that I refuse to condone or be seen to condone such behaviour.

That is goes on we all know. That I will not tolerate it being centered around here we also know.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9738 is a reply to message #9730] Sun, 20 April 2003 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tim...of usa is currently offline  tim...of usa

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the person and issue at hand has been firmly delt with and the situation that timmy has mentioned is done.

peace
tim...of USA

(and no its not me who was spoken of but i know the party)
icon8.gif Re: This is not a grooming parlour  [message #9744 is a reply to message #9730] Sun, 20 April 2003 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rbryce is currently offline  rbryce

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i sure wish you would identify this nasty person. rob
The identity is not needed  [message #9745 is a reply to message #9744] Sun, 20 April 2003 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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icon9.gif Re: The identity is not needed  [message #9746 is a reply to message #9745] Sun, 20 April 2003 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rbryce is currently offline  rbryce

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are you angry at me tim? rob
icon3.gif read me cuz it contains trees  [message #9752 is a reply to message #9720] Sun, 20 April 2003 19:34 Go to previous message
thirdfencepost is currently offline  thirdfencepost

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Sigh Hi all
I was not going to reply to this. I talked to 3 or 4 peoples first. I jsut wnated to let yall know that everything is settled now no worries from anyone. So it would be way cool if yall dropped it cuz the thread is hurting some of us more then it is helping. No worries my infinate wisdom of trees and peace will make everything ok. Now yall must go hug a tree in honor of Easter Smile
Peace and Trees
~Andy
(was the coherant i dunno if i atually said naything or if i jsut rambled)



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