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icon8.gif Drinking  [message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 03:01 Go to next message
thirdfencepost is currently offline  thirdfencepost

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Location: NJ
Registered: May 2003
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Ok, the scariest thing ever just happened to me. Almost no one was online to talk to so I will just post it here. My friends Sam Ryan and I were hanging out and we were bored so Sam being a genius was likelet s wlak to A&P. So we walked a mile into ttown then was like I am hungry lets get pizza instead. So we were chillin eatin Pizza when two kids in my grade come in. One of them is my friend Billy and the other is a kid I dont like to much Steve (not my BF steve another steve). They are so completely wasted. I have never seen someone drunk before.

So Bill saw us and stumbled over and sat down in the both next to us while Steve ordered a slice of pizza. And Billy looks like dead!!! He was barely white and just sitting there his glasses fell off and he didn't even notice. Then he tried to rip off all his clothes.

Steve sat down next to Ryan I was sittin next to Sam and hes like ohhh I'm soo hungry. And took a bite. Then he looks at me and hes jsut staring a;ll like wide eyed at me it was really frightening. And hes like woah Andy youre Andy. Then hes like you had a crush on that kid didn't you Dave. I was jsut staring at him confused and hes like you know!! back in 8th grade Dave. ( I hated him) Steve kept dropping his cell phone. He tried to call his mom biut he oculdnt read teh screen or see the buttons so in the end Sam dialed for him. It was soo gross.

At one poitn Bill looked up and wa slike get me outside. I was so clue less I didn't know what to do. Sam jumped up and dragged poor billy out the door and he just fell on the sidewalk puking everywhere. Then he passed out. IT was so nasty. I just grabbed Bills glasses and coat and followed the herd outside. At that point I thought i was going to be sick and had had enough and told them I was leaving. It was so sickenign.
BTW sam is a girl = samantha in case any of you think taht is important.

So I was wodnering what you guys think about drinking cuz I am thorally sickened by the thought of putting and form of alchol near my mouth ever.!!!!



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Re: Drinking  [message #9839 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 03:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
david in hong kong is currently offline  david in hong kong

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Whoa, Andy! Yuck! I totally agree with you about people who get really wasted. And it sounds like they may have been mis-using other "substances" than alcohol, too.

For me, I always try to avoid wasters like that. Just making an excuse and saying, "Gotta go,bye..." would have been enough to ditch them. No other excuse needed, and they likely wouldn't have heard or understood you anyhow. I would have been up and going before they staggered over to join you, dude!

But moderate drinking, I have no problem with. The rule I use is no more than 1 unit of alcohol per hour...that's one beer or one mixed drink. In an hour, that much alcohol gets cycled out of the body's system anyhow, so you can have that for as many hours as you're out. I just drink something else in between, nobody ever used to complain or call me a wuss.

Of course, not drinking at all is also fine. Plus not so fattening, and probably cheaper, too!



"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
Drinking - Dad's viewpoint  [message #9840 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I can present a view as a father, here. Please start by understanding that European drinking laws are verymuchless restrictive than the USA. It is legal in the UK for a child of 14 to take beers and windes in a restuarant with adults. It is legal for a person of 18 to buy alcohol. There is no illegality about consuming alcohol at any age. In mainland Europe different laws apply in different countries.

I see no fundamental objection to anyone drinking. Indeed I have the same views about soft, non addictive drugs. And I do recognise that alcohol does produce an addiction.

Most kids trying booze for the first time go overboard. They drink to excess because they don't know the safe limits, and they puke. A few are stupid, do it on spirits, get alcohol ppoisoning, and die. Most hate the vomit experience and the hangover, and use increasing degrees of common sense as that grow. Some don't.

I see it as a part of good parenting to show kids what is and is not safe, what is and is not socially acceptable.

At least we now have "Bud Lite" where you get too full before you get drunk!

Now, if you have a friend who gets so drunk as to become unconscious, make sure they are in the "Coma Recovery Position" when they sleep. This prevents drowning on own vomit.

I am content with alcohol in moderation.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
icon8.gif I don't approve of it.  [message #9843 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lenny is currently offline  lenny

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Location: Far Away
Registered: March 2002
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I HATE drinking. I hate intoxicated people. I hate the smell of it on their breath. I hate the taste of it. I despise it so thoroughly my skin crawls just by thinking of people actually wanting to pour that shit into their bodies.

All it ever does is fuck you up. It's POISON, that's what poisons do. Fucks you up!

My adoptive mother's an alcoholic. Only reason she doesn't drink on a virtually daily basis is because she's too fucking feeble to get her fat ass down the long hill she and her husband lives on to the liquor store and back again.

I hate alcohol. There is no just using it. There is only abusing.

-L



"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."

-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
icon13.gif marijuana  [message #9848 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thirdfencepost is currently offline  thirdfencepost

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Registered: May 2003
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Last night they were only drunk. Unfrotunitly while drunk they were sharing their stupid plans for tonight. Which basically involved getting high and wasted. I couldn't believe Ryan is gonna go with Steve to get wasted tomorrow. Ryan is only in like 8th grade maybe 7th !!!!Ugg so disgusting. I dunno I am sickened by these guys. I mean I see my parents drink like one glass of wine. Or my bro who is 21 drink a beer and that is cool. But like this was just so gross. They couldn't even stand up!



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Re: Sometimes unpleasant things happen. BUT thatis not a reason for t  [message #9849 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Derek Stanley is currently offline  Derek Stanley

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Registered: January 1970
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Drugs and drinking are about the only thing i don't joke about and something i am very much against. (for those of you not in the USA, the legal drinking age is 21 here) I like just about everyone else have been drunk. It took three times for me to learn that you don't have to get drunk to have a good time.

My first question would be is this the first time Billy and Steve drank? If so....how is are they today? Are the sorry they did it or they can't wait to do it again.

Secong question is why? Did they do it just to see what its like or are they drinking for a reason? If it was for a reason what was the reason.

If Billy is your friend then talk to him. Find out why he was drinking and tell him that if he is drinking or drunk you don't want to be around him. If he is getting drunk to forget his problems then try to help him or help him find someone that can give him the help he needs.
Re: Drinking  [message #9850 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brian! is currently offline  brian!

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Location: North West Ohio, USA
Registered: December 2002
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What can I say, I enjoy it. I don't drink every day, mostly only twice a week. I want to say I need it. Being shy, it's about the only way I can relax and have some fun. (especially when I'm trying to hopefully meet someone) I do know my limit, I even had to prove it to the Highway Patrol a couple weeks ago. (that was fun, and he wasn't happy I wasn't drunk) Sorry if it upsets some of you, but things are different for different people. Your friend may have some problems that he can't deal with, drinking just puts it aside for a while. He may just be "experimenting" with it. There are a lot of varibles to why, but he's the only one that knows.

My two cents worth

Brian



To love oneself is the beginning of a life-long romance.
Re: Drinking  [message #9851 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
e is currently offline  e

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Registered: May 2002
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If a person is of legal age and can drink responsibly, there is nothing wrong with drinking. When the intent (or result) is to get drunk, then it is being abused. Alcohol can cause a lot of problems when abused. I don't want to get too preachy, so I'll leave it at that.

Thinnk good thoughts,
e
icon7.gif It is about intent and limits  [message #9852 is a reply to message #9851] Thu, 24 April 2003 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Location: UK, in Devon
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I drink rarely. When I drink I do it to add to my enjoyment of the occasion. As a teenager I drank "because I oculd" and because my parents were tee total.

I have to say that I did not enjoy getting drunk, but I liked the extra freedom alcohol gave me in my mind. I oculd even seem drunk and put my head on a boy's lap, or my hand on his knee. People thought I was drunk, you see!

Nowadays I only drink when I enjoy the flavour of the stuff. Beer seems pointlessly bitter. "Fashionably dry" wines are sour for the sake of sourness. And yes, I owudl drink something non alcoholic having the same flavour as the alcoholic drink.

Though I do like the extra liberation it gives when mildly squiffy.

I've watched my son go through the "Drink to barf" and increasingly towards the "Drink to enjoy the occasion". It seems to be a process some kids go through and others don't. And kids come in all ages.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: Drinking  [message #9856 is a reply to message #9837] Thu, 24 April 2003 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dan is currently offline  dan

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Location: Bath
Registered: February 2002
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Hi all.

Basically, when I was younger - say 15/16 I would get drunk at every available opportunity. Being in the UK, and at public school, everybody drunk, it is a socially acceptable thing to do (perhaps even required, in the circumstances). Especially when going out in the city, everyone at that age just got smashed to the furthest extent possible. And we had fun. I had *such* fun times when we were all drunk... some of my funniest memories are when I was drunk, and as were everybody else's. Honestly, I think it is a growth thing - you then learn your limits, and respect them. You push your limits to see as far as they can go, and have a whale of a time in the process. I completely disrespect the whole 'namby-pamby' philosophy of the idea of enforced non-drinking teens. Due to the fact they turn out to be complete light-weights and have litle drinking -'social' abilities later on in life.

It is a coming-of-age ritual I believe, and is perfectly harmless as long as you don't go too far overboard to cause harm to yourself or others.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

Dan.
Re: Drinking  [message #9857 is a reply to message #9856] Thu, 24 April 2003 21:49 Go to previous message
rbryce is currently offline  rbryce

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DAN--thank GOD I dont have to depend on you for my safty or as a father and I thank my god im not your (friend). Id rather place my trust and life in NAMMBY PAMMBYS. rob
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