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Seems Bravo Cable Channel is going to have a 6 episode series in July called "Boy Meets Boy". It's a reality show where a gay 32 year old man will choose from 15 potential dates. Some of the 15 are gay and some are str8. If he chooses a str8 guy, the str8 guy wins a cash prize. If he chooses a gay guy, the lead character wins the prize and a vacation. Each episode will end with the main guy and a girlfriend?? choosing who will go and who will stay.
What do you think??
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WHY THE FUCKING GIRLFRIEND?
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Well, in general most boys and girls fuck. It tends to happen more often than boys fucking boys. So I woudl rephrase that as "Why fucking the girlfriend?"
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I don't know, I'm not much of a reality-TV fan, but if it's well made, why not? I don't really get the girlfirend part, unless incase the guy picks a str8 guy then the girlfriend goes on the trip? Anyway, depending on how the series is made, it can be a good or a bad thing. Hope it's a good one 
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
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Again I repeat my question! Why must these gutless wonders have a female on the show? What purpose does she serve? Why cant they have the courage just to put on a gay format and let the chips fall where they may.Why is it that every goddamn show HAS TO HAVE some female twat on it?FUCH RELIGION-FUCH GIRLS-FUCH STRAIGHTS AND FUCH BI-SEXUALS.IM gay and damn proud of it and dont have to sugar-coat that by saying im bi-sexual.And if that offends all those bi-people out there,then such my banana. rob
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Would someone out there please validate the existance of woman other that for reproductive reasons.What other use can they have other that to make mens lives painful? rob
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Rob~
I have a great deal of trouble with your cursing and capital letters. Caps are the same as yelling on the MB and we all know how to curse, we just refrain from it.
My mother and my grandmother are women and two of the most wonderful people I know in the world. My best friend in the world is a girl and she could hold her place beside any guy for looks and brains and bravery.
Please watch your temper as it serves no purpose and makes us uneasy.
{{{{hugs}}}}
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Amen to what smith said.
Sometimes what you say and how you say it make me wince and then avoid, Rob. Which makes me lose track of your sometimes visible good heart about other things...
This started out to be a light-hearted post about an interesting new thing. Why rant?
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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please forgive my ranting guys,I am deeply sorry if I hurt anyone out there.Its that sometimes I get pretty mad at the hetro world out there.Its so unfair and unequal. rob
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I agree with you that the world is not a fair place but we're all on the same side here, right? Thank you for understanding, my friend
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well rob, your post sure made me feel all warm and fuzzy, like i´m worth something. i wonder, whose life are you making painful?. i was just cruising around this morning looking for information(i praise myself to try always to have an informed opinion), when i saw your post (this thread was the first) and, sadly, it just made me think of some popular knowledge here in Mexico (by popular knowledge i mean ignorant, bigoted, common beliefs) they say homosexual men are like that because for some reason they hate their mothers. it´s stupid i know, and i confess that this morning i just left, thinking this was not the place for me, but then, as the day wore on and i reflected on it, i realized i was never one to let herself be guided by first impression when i´m forming an opinion, so i came back, i´ll keep reading and hopefully understand bettter the reason for your hate, and i´m glad i did, cause i found two responses to your post that indicate this is not the general attitude. i do hope you dont lead a too difficult life, and that you get to learn that there is indeed value to everyone´s life, be they woman, man, child, gay, straight or somewhere in between, asexual, etc. love much, alma
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Aw come on sweetheart-I was just stirring the pot.hehehe But you have to admit I did get your attention didnt I? I suppose girls do have their uses.God invented them and we all know that God does not make mistakes dont we? The day comes when I can walk hand in hand with my soul-mate in public and gay kids are safe in school,regardless of being gay,I will embrace the hetro world with gusto.There are gentle souls comprising this board.I suppose that this is worthy of respect-maybe so.This writer is of the opinion that gay people are at risk.They are at risk from a force so monsterous and powerful that it is almost beyond belief.To compound this are the events of 911.My ears are bombarded with religious zelots shouting from the rooftops that AIDS and HIV and SARS are (homo) diseases-sent by a vengeful and angry GOD to punish the world because of homosexuals.politicos are jumping thru church held hoops to criminalise such activities or orientation.They would do so in a heart beat.As far as I am concerned,this is war.Please choose your side carefully! PS- there is a well written story on the new gay writers guild---WHERE NO ONE OWNS THE RAIN this is a very well written story and will blow your socks off. rob
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I'm so glad you came back and found that we are nice people here.
Please stay We all have bad days. You're right, first impressions are not a good guide to whether something is right for you or not.
Yes! Everyone in the world has equal value and you are as valuable as I am or anyone else anywhere. As Rob said, the world is unfair but we are the ones who need to keep working to
make it better, right?
{{{{hugs, Alma}}}}
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If only 11% of the population is gay and you make this a "us vs them" issue, you will surely use the war, Rob.
Personally, I think acceptance is the first step toward equal rights. Not just "rights" but true freedom in society (walking hand in hand with your boyfriend, for example) which even those totally legally protected minorities don't have yet.
One of the few positive things I can do as a gay person living a straight life is to let people know that gay people are not so different, that they have a gay friend who is the reasonable person they've known for years. I'm starting to tell my wife about my friends, and soon my kids, and share your stories and ideas, and have a positive influence on opening the eyes of my straight friends and my kids' friends.
You're not going to gain acceptance by being aggressive and blasting those who are different from you. Isn't that EXACTLY what those religious bigots are doing?
It just doesn't work to say "love me first, then I'll consider loving you." You appear to be asking for something you are unwilling to give yourself. I know you are half joking - it's that other half I worry about!
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I just knew that Ian had to chime in here somehow.hehehe.There aint gonna be any war peoples,you all will see to that.The girls havnt figured it out yet,but Im just a big tease and you girls make my day by getting your panties in a bunch.Ol robert is just stoking up the coals,heating up the fire.Frankly Im glad that there are girls.God could have messed up and made me one.Hang on to those panties girls,cause rob likes to tie knots in them.So many panties and so little time.----rob hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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I guess my idea of fun and teasing is different from yours
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A direct question often brings a good answer.
Glad you came back
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Robert, you are a sweet paradox sometimes. I know you to be an awesome friend and a good man. And I know from what you have said that you have been to your own private hell and back. And that this also gives you challenges in anger management and shirt term momory and a few other places.
I guess the issue is that we have a multi national board here, with people whose graps of a tease is hampered by the fact that english is not always their first language.
I was wondering, gently, like smith, if you might rein in your natural exuberance for a "battle" and play nice? Please?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Isn't it weird how a topic can go so far off course? The tv show sounds kinda cool, this other stuff does..........not.
I'm at a loss to understand reverse bigotry. Anyway, have a great day
{{{hugs, fun & smithteases}}}
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*Hugs* just for you!
Take care!
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
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-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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staight woman to side with you rob? I should be fucked, eliminated if possible, according to your standards.
No Rob, what we need to do is find common ground where we can see each other as human beings regardless of gender, orientation, race.
I frankly don´t see any difference between you and the people that mock gays or belittle women, or think themselves somehow superior to people of different class or race or background.
I know you probably have been the direct or indirect victim of bigoted beliefs, and i feel for you so much, honestly, but that is the very reason you should be concious of what it means to suffer prejudice, and avoid casting aspersions on a whole group of people simply because of one adjective they share.
Bigoted people think in those terms, here are some examples: ***jews are greedy***blacks are problematic***hispanics are lazy*** ***women´s sole purpouse in life is making men´s lives painful***gays are promiscous***gays are pedophiles***
So I think I´ll just side with people who are free of hatred of any kind, and if that´s not one of the sides, then I´ll make my own army : ). love much, alma.
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Thanks for taking the time to replay smith, I too am happy to have come back. I´m pretty much aware of my own value and try to make everyone as aware as I am with much frecuency, I´m afraid  , I also always try to make other people aware of their own value, sadly, I´m not always succesful. But I never give up, I know it sometimes takes time to accept, to trust when you have closed yourself up. People spend too much time giving voice to ignorance in my corner of the world, and that is the least of the damage they do. We have to come up with something fast . In the meanwhile, keep trying in your corner, I´ll take care of mine, and just maybe it will catch to other corners love much, alma
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Just a general insight into gay issues. One day, when i was a girl, my friends and I were drinking a coke outside of school. we were joking and laughing and yelling, generally making a nusiance of ourselves. In comes this kid, a little older than me, quiet, a little timid. I did not know him, but aparently my best friend did. He started making fun of the kid, calling him names, mocking his movements, etc. He was the number one prankster in school, very popular and handsome, etc, so he thought it his business to let this kid know he was not welcome because everyone thought he was gay. Of course everyone laughed and try to impress each other by doing the same. I was getting madder and madder and told them to shut up, but he just looked at me like he was doing nothing, and made a sudden movement to scare the kid. i saw the shame in the face of the kid and a great sadness, and i could not take it any longer. I punched my best friend in the face. There was complete silence there, everyone watching what was going to happen, i was never afraid he would deck me one or anything, for one, i was a girl and he a boy, so he couldn´t very well hit me, and two, we truly love each other, and he had come to realize i was really upset about this. so he just ducked his head and said nothing, i grabbed the kid and got out of there. we talked some and said goodbye. My friend was really mad at me for making him look bad, and at first he would not listen to me, but i reminded him of a few details of our lives that could make us a target just the same, if we had not been so confident or able to blow it off. He just said "i don´t know why i love you, i dont even like you!". he went looking for the kid and apologized and that was that. i never thought of it again. Now i know i should have. i should have tried harder. mainly it was ignorance on my part (and on everyone else´s, i´m sure)when i was defending him i didnot think of the reason they were ribbing him, i was just thinking they were hurting him and he had done nothing to us. but i know i could have made a larger difference if i had been less ignorant or more interested. i´m ashamed of that. i found him again last week, and he was happy to see me. we talked some and some of the things he told me made me realize i was way behind in this matter, and was making nothing to remedy the situation, Simply put, my eyes were shut. i came looking for a little help in opening them. and i too am glad i came back, thanks for the welcome. love much, alma.
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As you'll see we have many people here, of all ages, mostly gay men and teenagers. I think no-one lower than teenage. In the main we all get on well. Sometimes things get heated, which is ok unless it gets personal.
I'm glad you came back,too.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Hi Alma, nice to meet you and yup I'm a woman, I like to think of myself as a lover of people, sometimes female but mostly male (as a sexual preference that is) So if I put a label on me I'd say I'm bi.
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Thank you sweetheart, you have a nice day too, hope you got over your little tantrum  I love you lots
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woman you take yourself too seriously.I do not hate females in general,but like lilies of the field,they do take up space and are a puzzle.What I do dislike is the absolute worship of the female form--The worship of the female sex god if you will.And it really pisses me off that hetros think that they have some sort of monopoly on romantic love.Lady,I could give a rats butt if I made you angry.At least you got off it and posted here on this board and that was my goal.GOTCHYA---rob
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This lady methinks would make a good friend! rob
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yuch.Do I have to play with girls daddy? They gots cooties. rob
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what was objected to was the inclusion of a female on the show.As I read and reread the original post,This was to be some kind of gay dating format with a few straight male contestants included.If a straight was selected,that (male) would recieve a cash prize instead of a male date.--why the inclusion of some female-does not make sense!But then hetros are a bit strange. rob
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"At the end of each episode, he'll eliminate suitors - with the aid and advice of his best, female friend who was on hand throughout the shooting -until one is left."
"Because of that twist, the show is going to be talked about more - and there's going to be more straight viewers," said Seomin [the producer].
I hope that clarifies the reason for the girlfriend. Jeeeez!!
We had a deal at school this past year where the NHS played Millionaire over the school monitor the last 45 minutes of the day twice a week. I always had my best girlfriend at my side as my "phone a friend" partner. Heck, she's smarter than I am.
She also has the most vivid gaydar I've ever seen. If I was gonna be on "Boy Meets Boy", I'd have her right there picking out the str8 guys Makes total sense to me !
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I never ever had a girlfriend,growing up,I used to think girls came from Pluto.hehehe------BTW,you completely missed my point.If that was to be a (gay) format,the question still begs to be asked.Why doesnt the producer have the balls to make the show entirely gay without the twat? rob
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the Atlanta CDC has issued a warning--twat will rot the brain! rob
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angry, i never thought you would come find me and zap me into non existance and i do not need you to validate me in order to be happy. but i do take you seriously, and i wish you would reciprocate. this is the first time you mention the object of your hate/fear/disgust or whatever is "something" not "someone". if your battle is against people´s detrimental attitudes then i would say we´re on the same side. but you would never know it if we go by your words. i urge you to think about this and reflect that this is the very attitude you should be fighting against in other people, not fomenting in yourself. it is the very thing that is making the world into an unlivable place. there have been gay people killed, tortured, mocked, hurt because someone thought they were taking up space and did not understand them. if you do not wish to be taken seriously, maybe you should think hard before telling someone "please explain to me why you deserve to exist" and also make sure to use words that make your levity clear. i´m reading the story you recomended, and you were right, it rolls. i may have found a new hobbie thank you. love much, alma.
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Thank you for bringing at least a little justice to this world, and righting one wrong.
Even if you think you did not do all you could have done, surely you agree that what you did is much better than simply doing nothing?
Also like Timmy I would like to say thank you so much for coming back, and for telling us all your story.
I would both have liked and needed a friend like you when I was in school. Your friend should be thankful for the punch you gave him... I hope he comes to realize this.
Sincerely:
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
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-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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