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a shame  [message #12705] Fri, 25 July 2003 07:43 Go to next message
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ashley asked me last weekend if i had been here and seen anything posted that he would find interesting. i had to tell him of the goings on here and he was very concerned. it would appear to me that the place has got a virus or trojan in it? maybe many? the feeling here has been very antagonistic. ashley was rather upset that tim's board had become a ground for this sort of carry on. i understand that it was meant for people to come along and feel safe?

i don't pretend to understand the problem nor will i pass judgement. i will just say that it is a shame that you all can't be at peace and go back to helping those that come here for guidance and a shoulder. maybe already many have veered from here because of the vehemence? please consider your response before you pen hurtful comments in a public forum. a forum that is provided by a man that wants only to help.

forgive the intrusion. ashley sends his love also to all.
Re: a shame  [message #12707 is a reply to message #12705] Fri, 25 July 2003 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Ashley is not the only one who is upset. I am livid.

The thing I will not do lightly is to turn anyone away. I would rather allow them to deflate gently and become whole again. For a while we can tolerate hot air and imbecilic behaviour, though it does get rather boring. Then self ridicule sets in, and then remorse.

That is another reason I do not often delete posts.



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Re: a shame  [message #12709 is a reply to message #12705] Fri, 25 July 2003 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your "intrusion" is most welcome, David. Thank you.

Please pass along best wishes to Ashley, along with the reassurance that the majority of us here do the same, and are trying to keep this place the way it was (and should be).



We do not remember days...we remember moments.

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icon9.gif Re: a shame  [message #12712 is a reply to message #12709] Fri, 25 July 2003 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I totally agree with you, Mr. Dawson...and with Ron. I have less patience than timmy, tho...and it's getting really difficult ignoring the nonsense. It really does get in the way of what the truly important mission of this place is.
Please simply read this  [message #12713 is a reply to message #12712] Fri, 25 July 2003 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is a repeat post by me to some here ......  [message #12717 is a reply to message #12705] Fri, 25 July 2003 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have not and do not intend to be part of any feud here, real or imagined. I have almost no knowledge of the conflict you speak about. But I do have a couple thoughts for those who still harbor ill feelings.
It takes a big man (on the inside silly) to extend a hand of friendship and truce.

Any real gesture should come from the heart and not expect anything in return.

Timmy may go through great pains to "delete" the threads you speak of, but that does not erase the words from memory. Taking them away is not a solution, not giving the past words weight in the future and "letting it go" will do more than any effort Timmy could ever do.

We cannot erase the past but we can choose to learn from it and be better in the future. Take something positive from this. That is your personal choice.

Brian, to share what you feel will allow those that care to be sensitive too those feelings. It is your choice to share or not. But I think many of us here can learn from your thoughts and feeling. Your feelings are important, just as you are important.

Remember, friendship sometimes takes work and sacrifice. Make the effort, be friends. You will be surprised what you get back in return.

Healing Hugs to all of you.

Kevin



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icon7.gif Please tell Ashley  [message #12725 is a reply to message #12705] Fri, 25 July 2003 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That we love him too and that we need he and his Roos back to restore order because obviously we are having a hard time without him.

Think good thoughts,
e
icon7.gif I'll second that one ...  [message #12726 is a reply to message #12725] Fri, 25 July 2003 17:50 Go to previous message
warren c. e. austin is currently offline  warren c. e. austin

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... but not before its' time David. Only when Ashley is healthy and whole again.

In the mean time, you might ask him to let a couple of his 'Roos loose. As I've mentioned to you before throught the medium of Ashley's own Forum at voy.com, "I am another of Ashley's causes, and find myself living in abject terror of ever again meeting one of his 'Roos as they make their global rounds dispensing care, compassion, and on very rare occasions, a good swift kick in the behind. One learns very quickly, after just one encounter, to not argue with the likes of a Uzi-toting 7-foot, 600-pound, 'Joey' charged with Ashley's mission to bring his flock of the dispossessed to heel." Perhaps they might bring a touch of their tender magic at play here as well during his extended absense.

With best wishes

Warren C. E. Austin
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