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Reputations, and "ghettos"  [message #12925] Wed, 30 July 2003 12:21 Go to next message
timmy

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Forgive me. I meant to move a post, instead I deleted it.

There was a comment in another thread about things that do not enhance reputations of those who are same gender oriented. I think that is worth developing, though not in that thread. I had meant to copy and paste, but I screwed up. It wasnt meant to be censorship, just repositioning.

It led me to think. If we hide our sexuality, does that create a ghetto?



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icon5.gif Question??  [message #12929 is a reply to message #12925] Wed, 30 July 2003 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We think of a ghetto as a section of a city where poor minorities live. Here where I live we have a "ghetto" but it is their choice. Many Hispanics come to the US to work but then they live in an isolated group, never learning English and only moving amongst themselves. The kids have to miss school to go translate for them at doctors and such. There are free classes at the high school for them to learn English but very few do it.

I'm not sure I understand the question. A ghetto can only be formed if a group of people are, in some way, forced to live together within the restrictions of their "minority". If I hide my sexuality, how can I even "join" a ghetto? The ghetto would be in my mind, complete with razor wire and spotlights.
Re: Question??  [message #12932 is a reply to message #12929] Wed, 30 July 2003 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That IS the ghetto I have in mind. Internalised



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icon14.gif Re: Question??  [message #12933 is a reply to message #12932] Wed, 30 July 2003 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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suppressing free speech and censership can also create a ghetto
icon8.gif Are you here to pick a fight, or to contribute?  [message #12934 is a reply to message #12933] Wed, 30 July 2003 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We just recovered from the last episode. Do we really have to have some more?

It was your message I failed to move. I apologised for that. Now all you are doing is bristling with hostility.



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icon14.gif Re: Are you here to pick a fight, or to contribute?  [message #12935 is a reply to message #12934] Wed, 30 July 2003 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still love you Timmy,but I honestly feel that these SEX topics do not belong on a place where kids can view these topics and I am not trying to pick a fight--just expressing a thought.....rob
icon4.gif Re: Are you here to pick a fight, or to contribute?  [message #12936 is a reply to message #12935] Wed, 30 July 2003 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think that they are good and helpful, its not like anyone i sbeing crude or anything. the posts are more about beliefs than about sex.
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icon4.gif Rob......  [message #12937 is a reply to message #12935] Wed, 30 July 2003 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can only speak for myself but I do know all the other kids that post and I wish I knew the lurkers. Why do you think we kids are here? We pretty much know what's what.....Nowadays, how can we miss it all? Would you rather we read trash stories and thought that was what sex was like? Do you want us to get out information from MTV? Here, on timmy's MB, we see that who we are is much more important than what we are and we are respected for our questions and for our naivete.

Actually, the virginity question is one I wanted asked. That's exactly WHY this MB is here....to answer questions. We can't ask our parents, our teachers, or our ministers. You say you love timmy and yet you question the mission of his MB. It's doing exactly what he has created it for; to help.

Think about when you were 14/15/16. Didn't you have questions? Who answered them? If I want to know when exactly I'm no longer a virgin, where better to ask? I've asked alot of questions since I've been here and I've always gotten thoughtful answers. It's all I ask.

I respect your opinion that I'm a kid and I should be censored in my quest for self-knowledge but you have to respect my opinion that I come here in good faith and have come a long way from the little boy I was alot due to the answers I welcome from the good people on this MB.

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icon14.gif Re: just clean it up a little  [message #12938 is a reply to message #12937] Wed, 30 July 2003 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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some adults censure,other loving adults talk WITH and explain TO PROTECT....Actually I would like to hear more about Andys adventures.Reminds me of my military days peeing in the fountains and following Pattons adventures watering the Rhine...makes for lots better reading...rob
Re: just clean it up a little  [message #12939 is a reply to message #12938] Wed, 30 July 2003 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, "Censure" is not the same as "Censor". One admonishes, the other removes stuff.

Andy's adventures and discussions about sex are not mutually exclusive. Both are here, both have a valid place.

There is also nothing here to clean up. No "dirt" is present.

Now please let the people who want the information have the information



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icon6.gif "Children should not see things about sex"?  [message #12942 is a reply to message #12935] Wed, 30 July 2003 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is what I see you say.

The "children" that come here are here precisely because they understand "just so much" about sex. Enough to know they are, in some way, different from the norm. Enough to know that they are in need of help and education.

So, "not talking" about sex exposes them to HIV, STIs, and other unpleasant dangers.

Some of them choose not to ask their very serious and sensible questions themselves. So they ask me. And I often have no idea how to answer. So I ask on their behalf.

This is not a "PG Rated place", it never has been and it never will be. It is, instead, a place where things that peole need to know can be asked and answers.

If it were mainly heterosexual we woudl be talking about vaginas, penises, hymens, periods, pregnancy, abortion, the pill, the cap, spermicidal creams and jellies and pessaries. Since it is mainly homosexual we speak of anal sex and other matters.

This is not a big deal unless done with smut, or for titillation.

But wait.......... isn't sex described in the various stories on this site? It cannot be fine to talk about it in fiction but not in fact? That doesn't add up. But the "children" are here for a reason. How did they get here? How did they find the website at all?

The topics are here to stay.



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Re: just clean it up a little  [message #12947 is a reply to message #12939] Wed, 30 July 2003 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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we were refering to andys european adventures not his sex adventures....YOU HAVE A SICK MIND MOFO LIVING PROOF THAT YOUR A ROSE BUD....the frog
icon13.gif Re: "Children should not see things about sex"?  [message #12948 is a reply to message #12942] Wed, 30 July 2003 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you sir are a titillator and a perv and a vouyer and you know darned well why you brought up these posts and that was to cover your rose over the driver matter because you got egg on your face..did not even have the courage to post mr drivers response TO YOU--and you can bet the farm that his words were directed at YOU...rob
give it up rob  [message #12950 is a reply to message #12948] Wed, 30 July 2003 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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just shut up for once will you god



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I think that's about enough......  [message #12951 is a reply to message #12948] Wed, 30 July 2003 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
I concur: give it up, Rob!  [message #12952 is a reply to message #12950] Wed, 30 July 2003 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon7.gif you have my silence..and your still my friend marc  [message #12953 is a reply to message #12951] Wed, 30 July 2003 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No..... I am not!!!  [message #12954 is a reply to message #12953] Wed, 30 July 2003 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon4.gif Robert Bryce, you are no longer welcome. Formal notice  [message #12955 is a reply to message #12953] Wed, 30 July 2003 20:08 Go to previous message
timmy

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Not on my messageboard, not in my email, not anywhere where I am.

Your behaviour is reprehensible and your posts are not welcome.

I have never asked anyone to leave before. I am not asking now. You, I am telling.

My email is closed to you. My heart is closed to you. I have quite simply been asked by almost everyone to remove you. You are history.

Any further posts here are abuse, and will be treated as such.

LEAVE



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