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icon4.gif Beauty Pageant opens at Midnight UK time  [message #12991] Thu, 31 July 2003 21:22 Go to next message
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The Beauty Pageant goes live at Midnight UK time, on 31 July. Which means you can vote from 00:00 on 1 August.
Vote for as many of the guys featured to select the finalists. A new poll will happen to select the finalists. Your finalists, from your votes


Click the Pic to see the pageant and to choose your finalists






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icon7.gif Could we get a list of the number of submissions please?  [message #12992 is a reply to message #12991] Thu, 31 July 2003 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I mean, like, how many times each guy was submitted?

Some were undoubtedly submitted only once, but it would still be fun to know. Maybe not now, since that might skew the voting results, but when it's all over and done... Btw, some of my guys didn't make it to the list (well, one at least, I have only given it a cursory glance so far). Kinda curious as to why... Smile

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icon7.gif Mesa clumsy!  [message #12994 is a reply to message #12992] Thu, 31 July 2003 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The guy I thought was missing actually wasn't. LOL, sorry!

Btw... Cirro Clofton's real name is actually Cirroc Lofton. (Guess this means I've watched too much Star Trek, heh heh. Wasn't my submission though. Smile )

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he's correct now  [message #12995 is a reply to message #12994] Thu, 31 July 2003 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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voting opens in just under an hour



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I am counting the minutes until the polls open  [message #12996 is a reply to message #12991] Thu, 31 July 2003 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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125 candidates, ONE session to vote, and you vote for as many of the guys in that session as you like.



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icon14.gif WHHHHHEEEEEE I VOTED!!!!  [message #13000 is a reply to message #12991] Thu, 31 July 2003 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icon4.gif Re: WHHHHHEEEEEE I VOTED!!!!  [message #13005 is a reply to message #13000] Fri, 01 August 2003 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Me. too. and a lot of others as well...
icon14.gif Re: WHHHHHEEEEEE I VOTED!!!!  [message #13008 is a reply to message #13005] Fri, 01 August 2003 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Me, too!

Excellent job done by all: Tom for coming up with the idea, and Timmy and Bernd for making it happen. Congratulations and thanks to all three of you!



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*Boycotts*  [message #13011 is a reply to message #12991] Fri, 01 August 2003 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks to my own laziness in not nominating Haley Joel Osment isn't there, so as a result I'm not gonna vote *pouts* There are some other cuties there, no doubt, but that still doesn't change the fact that I'm not voting Razz



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icon6.gif Re: *Boycotts*  [message #13012 is a reply to message #13011] Fri, 01 August 2003 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup, after all, someone else will do it!

Go on, vote! What will it cost you?



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icon7.gif Awww, Saben, come on! The pageant needs you!  [message #13014 is a reply to message #13011] Fri, 01 August 2003 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vote please... Come on, join the fun! Smile


There's a slight problem though... Well, I don't know if it's a problem per se, it depends on how you look at it I guess.

What I mean is, unless we change the rules so this round chooses the top 50 or so guys, there won't be a single non-pink guy on the roster for the second round. I utter a somewhat startled, 'wtf?'

Does skin color really play THAT large a part in determining what's hot for people? I must admit I find that not only disappointing, but actually more than vaguely disturbing.

I'd like to hear people's opinions on this. I know I'm not perfect myself, I did a conscious attempt to nominate non-pinks, not because I felt I had to, but because I truly enjoy people of all colors, yet I still only managed to scrape together four guys and of those one barely counts as non-pink. Now to be fair to myself, that really tells more about my lack of imagination than anything else because there's tons of non-pink hotties out there (and the pink-competition is awfully stiff *ahem*), but I'd still like to hear how some of you people reason.

Why is this apparantly such a big deal? What are the possible social repercussions of such a prevalent attitude? Come on people, let's get a nice discussion going here. Smile


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hmm id ont quite understand  [message #13015 is a reply to message #13014] Fri, 01 August 2003 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but see like my fvaorite is matt damon (yes i nominated him too and sean patrick) but like i dunnoi voted for will smith to because he is so cute on saved by the bell. but besides that i dunno, just not attracted to other races really.
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I'm not voting  [message #13016 is a reply to message #13014] Fri, 01 August 2003 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But if I was I think that I'd be voting almost solely for whites. Why? It's not because I think that they are any more attractive, in fact I find asians in general more appealing than whites and people of african decent, indians (from India, interestingly enough they are actually caucasian and more closely related to whites than to blacks or asians) can be very attactive in their own way, too.

So, why then would I be mainly voting for white people? Well, quite simply because I find the ones nominated more attractive than any of the non-whites nominated and I don't believe in being politically correct just for the sake of being politically correct. I judge people on their individual merits REGARDLESS of race, gender or anything like that, minority groups should get no special treatment as far as I'm concerned.

The western media is filled with white people, so obviously the quantities of good looking white males is going to be higher, provided that the chance of being good looking is equal regardless of race. If there is even a 10:1 ratio of whites to other races, then there is high chance that the top ten good looking guys will be white. Not to mention that a lot of the guys of other races that DO get into movies/ music or whatever are usually older at entrance level than their white counterparts.

One could also say that because the top x number of males are straight that we are actually being discriminate against gays, obviously I don't think that is the case, just the number of gay guys is a lot less and also when they are still kids they seldom publically acknowledge being gay.

Anyway, if I could read kanji better and if I wasn't so lazy, you would maybe have got some real Japanese cuties who would well deserve to be in the top whatever, with the current selection however, I would have to say that my votes would only be going to whites (were I to be voting!)

Oh well, I hope that's the kind of discussion you wanted and I hope that I haven't offended anyone! I'm still not gonna vote though Razz *pouts off into the sunset*



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icon7.gif My vote is in  [message #13017 is a reply to message #12991] Fri, 01 August 2003 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, you can close the polls aned count the ballots.

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Attractions are narrower than ethnic  [message #13018 is a reply to message #13014] Fri, 01 August 2003 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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An attraction is more "tribal" than ethnic.

Look at married couples. She with a big nose is with the guy with the big nose. Big nosed kids arrive, and are desirable to other big nosed people.

In terms of human genetics, big noses tend to be tribal things.

We are pre-programmed to find people most like we are as attractive people.

It is logical, therefore, that people of the same ethnicity tend to find each other more attractive than other ethnicities. The closer the ethnic background the closer the similarities.

To have a relationship across an athnic boundary requires a huge piece of good fortune. It needs each person to be able to reciognise beauty (in whatever form it takes) in the other ethnicity. And to find it an attractive beauty as well.

In heterosexual relationships which produce children the challenges are even greater. The child will be seeking, by nature, the same type of person in looks. Because of mixing the genes from one ethnic group to another, such a match will be hard to find. The practical challenges are immense.

I do realise there are many exceptions to this general set of quasi-rules. And peolpe reading them shoudl not interpret them or me as racist



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icon14.gif 110 people have cast a vote, and voted for 2269 people.  [message #13019 is a reply to message #13017] Fri, 01 August 2003 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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110 people have cast a vote, and voted for 2269 people. That's an average of 18 per person.

And we have not yet been running 24 hours.

This is an amazing set of votes.

So, if you haven't voted and are going to vote, do it now



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icon7.gif Wheee!! Go Randy ! Go Randy !  [message #13020 is a reply to message #12991] Fri, 01 August 2003 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I tried to find a way to hack in but failed >>giggle<< so I couldn't vote 125 times for him :):)Smile But just ahhhhhhhh!!!

I am now "in luv" with Yong, the singer from Thailand (I wonder who nominated him Smile) Gorgeous much?

As for the ethnic voting....I saw beautiful guys in every shade of color, every shape of eyes, every everything. I'm kinda colorblind. I mean, look at the smile on Taye Diggs!

smith
hmm yeah i agree  [message #13021 is a reply to message #13018] Fri, 01 August 2003 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats pretty close cuz theres only like one type of guys I really look like and thats it. Actually that type isnt so much the same as me but in fact the same as my big brother josh more or less. So yeah I guess I can see what ya mean...
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My lowest rated pick  [message #13023 is a reply to message #13020] Fri, 01 August 2003 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Was Johnny Sheffield of Tarzan fame. I guess you just have to be old enough to remember him swinging through the trees in that breach cloth to appreciate hehehe.
Boy! pacy pacy. LOL



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Race and ethnicity  [message #13026 is a reply to message #13021] Sat, 02 August 2003 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was raised in a pretty much all-white environment, and didn't meet my first non-white person until I was in University. Plus back then there weren't any minorities in the media, either.

But I ended up not being attracted to other Caucasians, opposite to Andy and what timmy was saying.

I have only ever been attracted to Hispanics and South-east Asians, which actually look fairly similar (It's difficult to tell the diffference between a Thai/Indonesian and a Mexican, for example, in many cases. So how did that happen, I wonder? I'm a shrink, and nobody really knows how attraction works!

In non-white countries, there is still a color stigma. Darker people are considered lower class in countries all over the world.

Here in Thailand, people from the north are considered the best looking because they are "whiter". In the media, mixed-race people are considered the most beautiful. Yet, the name for mixed race people in Thai language also indicates a prejudice, as the term means literally "half-person".

Weird and wonderful world, huh?

I also agree that we have fewer minorities to chose from in thiss poll as there are far fewer minorities in the movies, etc. Sounds very logical!
icon6.gif Yong  [message #13027 is a reply to message #13020] Sat, 02 August 2003 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rumour here has it that Yong might like you, too, smith...did you check out his website for more pics, etc.? hehehe
icon12.gif Tom, what hath thou wrought? I love it!  [message #13028 is a reply to message #13019] Sat, 02 August 2003 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Wheee!! Go Randy ! Go Randy !  [message #13029 is a reply to message #13020] Sat, 02 August 2003 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey smith, don't those computer expert contacts of yours in the US Justice Department and the CIA owe you favors? [Wink].

Seriously (I may have mentioned this here before, so my apologies if you're not reading this for the first time): a close friend of mine was discussing his daughter with me this one time (she was about 11 then). When we got on the subject of her dating, he said there was one thing for sure: she better not ever bring home a black boy (he was Italian, by the way). I was stunned that he would say such a thing, but then I told him, "You know, there's every chance in the world that she'll bring home a black boy who proves to be the total and complete salt of the earth; there's an equally good chance that she'll bring home an Italian boy who ends up being a total and complete son-of-a-bitch." He had no answer for that.



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184 people have cast a vote, and voted for 3405 people  [message #13033 is a reply to message #12991] Sat, 02 August 2003 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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184 people have cast a vote, and voted for 3405 people. That's an average of 27 per person.



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I showed this to a str8 friend  [message #13036 is a reply to message #12991] Sat, 02 August 2003 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He said at first that he didn;t know whether to be simply disgusted or to be sick.

We talked some more.

The issue was and is that he is not attracted to guys. No, that was his issue. Past tense. He need never be attracted to guys.

We talked more about women and beauty.

Examples are Ulrika Jonsson, beautiful but unattractive, and Suzi Quattro, attractive but not beautiful. He started to see the difference between being able to admire beuaty without wanting to sleep with it, and wanting to sleep with someone even if they are not beautiful.

I wonder if he'll be able to acknowledge that another man is beautiful one day? I'm working on it.



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279 people have cast a vote, and voted for 5269 people. - And news!!!!  [message #13059 is a reply to message #12991] Sun, 03 August 2003 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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279 people have cast a vote, and voted for 5269 people. That's an average of 18 per person.

OK, we got the average a bit screwy before. SQl is Sql!

We have the finals pages ready to click in automatically and the final results pages ready too.

Now anyone who wants to say "WOW!" well done" better write to Tom who did all the legwork on the pics etc, and to Megaman who created the entire polling engine, and has done all the behind the scenes work.



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icon14.gif ME FIRST!!!  [message #13060 is a reply to message #13059] Sun, 03 August 2003 15:14 Go to previous message
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Good Job Tom and Megaman, is so cool when we get to see others get along and work together. You two did a super job. Can't wait for the next round.

Brian



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