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icon4.gif WOW, must be a weekend.  [message #13415] Sun, 17 August 2003 02:32 Go to next message
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Thought I'd ask some of the authors here a question. How do you come up with something to write about? Or does it just come to you and you build from it??

Brian



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icon3.gif Re: WOW, must be a weekend.  [message #13416 is a reply to message #13415] Sun, 17 August 2003 03:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dartagnon is currently offline  dartagnon

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A lot of my ideas are fantasies from my younger days. The old "what if?" sorta things. You know, how cool would it be if you could read minds, or if you could be someone entirely different from yourself as well as who you really are.

Then you mix in a fresh dose of horny, a little dash of creativity, and a whole lot of emotion....well, that's not entirely right either....

Really, you take a little of what you wish and hope, a little of what you know and understand, and a lot of what is possible mixed with what is just the other side of possible, stir and drop in some characters that not only make sense, but actually have emotions, hopes and dreams all their own.

A few of my characters are based on real people. At least as far as temperament, personality and, sometimes, looks. The trick is to make the people you write about seem as real and as believable as people you'd want to meet.

Other than that, what I write about is just whatever comes to mind, whatever makes logical sense and whatever just plain sounds good when I read it back. It's fantasy after all, so really, anything goes.



It's not the wolf you see you should fear, but all the ones he howls with. Don't be afraid of the song, but don't piss off the choir.
icon7.gif Re: WOW, must be a weekend.  [message #13417 is a reply to message #13415] Sun, 17 August 2003 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I wrote Lion's Den, I took inspiration from one of smith's posts about dealing with a bully. I recalled an incident that happened when I was in high school and twisted it a bit so the bully didn't win. After having a few readers ask for more, I took a few more unrelated events and strung them together into a cohesive story by making up a few more. I doubt that anyone involved in these events would recognise them. Some of the characters were writtten with real people in mind, but are so different from those people that none ever really existed.

Stranger in Town was based on the Old American Western version of the legend of the Grateful Dead. It's the same legend from which the band drew it's name. I decided to make the characters gay teens and re-write it.

In the Secret Space of Dreams was an exercise in writing a descriptive narrative. I was having difficulty writing narraive descriptions, so I decided to practice. I chose an old teacher and a boy I once knew, then I added an ending.

Three stories, three different inspirations. Don't know if that helps.

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Easier than you might imagine  [message #13424 is a reply to message #13415] Sun, 17 August 2003 10:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see someone, or something, that strikes a chord with me. It is usually, but not always, a handsome young man.

I think of my attraction to him, and place him in a setting I am familiar with and can describe.

And then I get another character to find him.

And they either talk, or don't talk.

At which point they dialogue takes over and leads the story.

The setting has to be one I know, though I chnage the details a little, because I have to be able to describe routes, transport, and other logistics.

One person so far has ecognised his old school! Just one!

I also met a guy online where I had set a scene in Chris and Nigel right outside his house! One heck of a coincidence. he never relaised until I told him.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: WOW, must be a weekend.  [message #13426 is a reply to message #13415] Sun, 17 August 2003 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The first story I wrote was a kind of challenge. One day while we were chatting I sent Timmy a link to a site about Ancient Egypt which told how one of the most sacred ceremonies involved the Pharaoh and masturbation. Timmy challenged me to turn it into a gay story - that's how "Serving the God" was born. One vacation was in Crete: on the airplane there was a steward with the most inviting butt you can imagine: that was the germ of "The Monk's Tale". "All You Need Is Love" was commissioned by a very dear friend who also laid down the ground rules for the storyline.
Re: WOW, must be a weekend.  [message #13472 is a reply to message #13426] Tue, 19 August 2003 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Often I write about things that I wish had happened to me. Then the story takes over, and develops a life entirely of its own.

Other times a framework comes into my mind, then the people start talking to each other. That's when I start writing.
icon6.gif Mood, Character and "Electric Walls of Sound"  [message #13488 is a reply to message #13416] Wed, 20 August 2003 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dartagnon is currently offline  dartagnon

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Well, a lot of what I said up there was true, but I think you were more into the inspirations that drive the stories I write, so I may have given the wrong impression.

Music influences my writing a lot. In fact, I often string together songs that I listen too just for a certain story or mood in a story. I actually burned a CD for Coupe called Eternal Knights. If I mention a piece of music in a story, you can bet that I'm listening to that when I'm writing.

Mood and character are two very important tools that I use in any writing I do. As such, I take a lot of thought into the backgrounds and emotions of the characters I write about. It's not easy getting into someone else's head that way, but it makes for a more interesting story, I think, if each character is an individual in their own right, not just a carbon copy of the lead character with a different hairstyle.

A lot of what I write is either supernatural or off the beaten path by quite a bit, even before it becomes something with a sexual feel. And I like there to be a plot aside from "let's get in bed." As Timmy points out, stories about sex are cheep and very plentiful. Stories about romance, love, and the day to day struggles to find and keep love in an acidic social environment, ah, now that's challenging. I like the characters to have set goals, or at least have a set goal for the story itself. A lot of people gave me grief over how Educating Max ended, but that was the point of the story. And yes, I am developing another story featuring Max and company, so hold on a while.

Sometimes, like with Max and with Coupe, there is a thematic element as well. Something that ties it all together, adds a sense of reality (or unreality, as the case may be) to the story. With Max, the theme was realizing the dangers of being who you really are and assessing those dangers constantly. It was also about how love is worth the struggle to find, keep and protect love, but that was more obvious. Coupe's thematic element is something a little more interpretive. A few people who have wrote me about that story were very close to the truth, but not quite dead spot on. I'll keep that secret a while longer, but just know that I try to put things into the story that help bind it.

Also, in Coupe, there are two hidden and kind of stupid (come to think of it) elements. The only hint I'll give about it is it's character related and both times it's screwed up.

One other thing about Coupe before I let go of this. The actual Kenny, the one I based this story on, died not shortly before I started writing it, and I only found out about it several weeks afterwards. He was an EMT in Los Angeles County, California. He had been doing his job, trying to help people, like he always did when we were kids, and he got shot in the head during a firefight. He never knew he had been hurt, and died almost instantly. He was a very good friend when I was young, and the emotions that I felt for him, and still feel for him to some degree, tend to come out in how I write about Kenny in the story. We had lost touch years ago, but he stayed in my thoughts a lot. And yes, he was a friend that I experimented with at that age, so a lot of the stuff I write about, while only true on the story, mirrors a fraction of what we discovered in each other all those years ago.

As for everything else? Well, you draw on inspiration from the one source that never ceases to amaze, confuse, confound, and just plain dazzle me at times, Real Life. We write in fantasy, but it is a dark mirror that reflects our hidden natures, our past, our thoughts, our dreams and most especially, that little part of your mind that continually looks at what is and asks "what if?"

And if none of that helps, heheheh, I skip ahead a chapter, write something interesting, and then fill in the gaps. It's a cheater's method, I know, but it gets results in the strangest, and most imaginative ways.

Okay, enough giving away all my secrets for now. You want the rest, analyze the stories and compare the little bits of them to your own reality and see what clicks.

Cya,
D'Artagnon



It's not the wolf you see you should fear, but all the ones he howls with. Don't be afraid of the song, but don't piss off the choir.
icon14.gif fantastic series of posts  [message #13489 is a reply to message #13472] Wed, 20 August 2003 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bravo.bravo..its a rare treat to hear from these very talented authors.an awsome inspiration...I still argue the point that these stories MAKE this site.I just wish there were more.The reading of delightful stories tames the monster in me.....rob
I've only written a single story  [message #13494 is a reply to message #13415] Thu, 21 August 2003 11:35 Go to previous message
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Under my old screen name of Quondam Manitou. That story was based on a real life incident and that gaves me all the basics, which I then built on. I have had other experiences that have struck me as being potential stories, but I've always been too lazy to actually start work on them as stories. What made 'Words Can't Express' different was partly that it was a school assignment that had to be finished in order for me to pass. The other main motivator was that it was a true story, Jake was my best friend and the tragedy of the whole thing had to be set down on paper.



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