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To love oneself is the beginning of a life-long romance.
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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you need to tell us why you feel this way.....r
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my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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I wasn't going to respond to this but my fingers didn't listen. I know that you once really liked this place. What's changed? I know you've made many friends here and many of them are worried about you including me as well as people you have never even chatted with.
Let us be there for you to get you through whatever is going on.
"To the world you may be but one person, but to one person you may be the world!"
"Some people love you and some hate you.. those who hate don't know what they're missing and they're missing out!"
"Never underestimate your power to change yo
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On fire! |
Registered: January 1970
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robert bryce
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Really getting into it |
Registered: January 1970
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With all due respect,these no-text responses just dont cut it..I do think the topic requires responses that are supportive to this person.I sense serious issues here,issues that need to be aired that will make this place a better place.....rob
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"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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robert bryce
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Really getting into it |
Registered: January 1970
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what in the lords name are you so unhappy about?? I thought we were going to place nice and treat each other with kindness.Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here that needs airing.ill listen....rob
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The fact that my friend is hurting. I simply disagree with you that I cannot sum up a question or get my point accross in one line. My words were exactly the ones I wanted to use.
Then maybe with knowledge of the problem, I could be supportive in regards what is really bothering him.
I do find it Ironic that I would be asked to defend such few words, but I digress.
Peace and Love to all,
Kevin:-D
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Without more details (or in this case any details) there is not any one can do but ask for the details in order to know what he needs support with.
Or how for that matter....
Let Brian tell what is bothering him....
We're all ready to lend an ear.... Or a hand if needed....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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You live in a difficult town, in less that happy financial circumstances, and have come to learn that friends exist, that you are valued, and that you are almost certainly gay. You've done this amomng frineds, so far as the net can provide friendship.
Some fo those frineds you've met, others spoken to by phone, one you love.
What can be so bad about all that?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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It don't matter, is to late anyway. If I never found this place, I'd have never opened up to the hurt, the losses, the fact that I'm gay.
All I do is get hurt and lose.
I've found this world is no place for someone like me. I try to do good, just to have it come back and kick me. My parents make sure that I know I'm worthless and can't do anything right. I was so happy that I paid off my vehicle yesturday, but all I get from them is "oh". I'm never good enough for them. It's always my fault things go wrong. I never mean to hurt anyone, but seems it happens all the time.
I'm used to being alone. I know none of my dreams will come true (thats why there dreams)(a few of them wouldn't hurt though). People try to help, but don't really know what is going on.
All I wanted was to be happy with one person, but this world and some people seem to know better. I hope everyone is happy.
Brian
To love oneself is the beginning of a life-long romance.
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There is good and bad in everything if you really think about it. And you yourself have said things have a funny way of working themselves out...and I believe if there is a will there is a way! I know you have the will so let us help you find the way.
BTW way to go on paying off your truck  (I thought you still had another month)
Danielle
"To the world you may be but one person, but to one person you may be the world!"
"Some people love you and some hate you.. those who hate don't know what they're missing and they're missing out!"
"Never underestimate your power to change yo
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i know all of this is going to sound trite, or what is "supposed" to be said, but it's really not the case. sometimes, it's all i have to hold onto, even when i've thought the same when i've heard it.
if it's meant to happen, if the dream(s) you have are meant to be, if the one person you love is the only one for you, the world and the people in it are not going to stop you from reaching and finding these things. it might try, brian, and it and they might try a lot, but that's the thing about reaching goals and dreams -- it's not supposed to be easy, and it won't happen if you give up on them. do they matter enough to you to fight for? would you go through hell and back for them?
don't become another soul-casualty to the (unfortunate) way the world works. i don't think you really want to give up, brian, and you don't have to deal with things by yourself. if you ever need to talk, feel free to IM or e-mail me.
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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Brian, first off, your statement "I've found this world is no place for someone like me" is just wrong. The world is better because your in it.
Another statement "All I do is get hurt and lose" sounds pretty bleak. And I am sure it feels that way sometimes. But it WILL get better.
And the one person your looking for, some have been looking for many many years, and are still waiting to find that special someone. Keep it up, you'll find him someday.
My thoughts and prayers are with you,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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Brian, we never chatted, and I invite you to do so. I want to be your friend. There is proof in here that you are not alone, my friend.
Blake's my boy.
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robert bryce
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Really getting into it |
Registered: January 1970
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Your post ,Kev,sounded like you were pissed at rob for no good reason except for a misunderstanding of his post...For the love of God man I was trying to be supportive here when I simply mentioned that one liner posts wernt too cool.Back off and cut rob some slack....rob
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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You paid your vehicle off. This means one fewer millstone to drag you down. Paying a loan off is a great achievement.
Some parents will never be satisfied with their kids. My son would say to you "get over it!" but it's hard advice to hear, let alone to take.
Business strategy with the store will see you out of the woods. Another worry will go. And, if you allow it to, the gloom will lift.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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On fire! |
Registered: January 1970
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If you're feeling low cause you're gay and you try to make your world a better place and your parents mess with your head, then move over, sit with me and we'll talk about it. I know just how you feel.
{{{{hugs}}}}
smith
Cool on the truck ! I wish I even had one :-/
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Or should I talk in the third person (just kidding). I know, but you should know that I would never stop at a one word reponse to a friend hurting. I would begin a dialog about it.
That is what I was doing.
Thanks for caring,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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"It don't matter, is to late anyway. If I never found this place, I'd have never opened up to the hurt, the losses, the fact that I'm gay."
1. Whether you found this place or not wou would still be gay! And hurt and losses are everywhere so APOS is no different, we're all human, we make mistakes!
"People try to help, but don't really know what is going on."
2. People try to help because they care about you. If they don't know "what's going on" it's probably because you don't or won't tell them. I know I would be at the front of that line to help you because you know as well as many others that I care about you a hell of a lot.
"All I wanted was to be happy with one person, but this world and some people seem to know better. I hope everyone is happy."
3. Since when do you listen to what other people say. The Brian I know welcomes a challenge in many cases, why not this one?
4. Everyone is not happy! Because you aren't happy!:'-(
(((((((HUGS))))))
Danielle
"To the world you may be but one person, but to one person you may be the world!"
"Some people love you and some hate you.. those who hate don't know what they're missing and they're missing out!"
"Never underestimate your power to change yo
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To my very good Friend, Brian.
One of the things I often comment to others about is the qualities in them that I admire. The things that garner respect and trust. These things are rare enough gifts in this world that sharing them only makes them more precious.
I find you to be caring, brave, thoughtful, insightful and even enduring. Qualities which don't exactly come with the territory. One of the things that I admire most about you, though, is your honesty and your empathy, how you try to do things for others. And that expresses in a lot of the things you do.
A lot of people here probably don't know that you are a volunteer firefighter, that you put your life on the line for people you don't even know everytime that you go on a call. They probably don't know about your home life, about your troubles and woes. But I do. And let me tell you, my friend, I feel that we'd all be missing out if you didn't show up here once in a while.
Now this isn't me trying to tell you it'll all work out alright. That every dream automatically gets granted because you deserve it. I wish it were that simple for all of us. Some dreams are possible, others may take years of struggle to achieve, and some, sadly, are beyond the scope. None of this, though, is what I want to get to you. And it's not a "hang in there" message either. You're too strong and too bone-headed stubborn to give up, that I know.
This is to tell you that while I might not fully understand every facet of your life, your pain, your dreams, your goals and your triumphs, I do sympathize. I do empathize. And more to the point, dear friend, I care. So do many of us hear.
Basically, I want you to know that you are loved. You are appreciated, and that you are a part of all of us here. Even if you are feeling down, depressed and angry at life, tell us. It's a Place of Safety, here, not a Happy-Go-Lucky or Go Home place. If you need to vent from time to time, tell us.
One final note, before I turn the stage over to someone else. I know the background story of what's going on, at least as much as you've told me. And yes, I was in tears at one point over it. I wish there was more that I could do than give advice, share my opinion or just listen to you kvetch. We all need that from time to time, but we all need a little more too. So, in lieu of actually being able to be there, put your hands on opposite shoulders and squeeze, tight, my friend. Until we actually meet, that's the best hug I can give for now.
Things will get better, though this is not the bottom floor yet, the elevator does go back up. Keep the faith, don't let your love of life get overshoadowed by the little things and the little fools that step in your way. Don't let the big things get you so far down you forget to look up. And above all, trust in your own strength, resiliency and heart. You've got miles of it, I'm sure.
An since you run into burning buildings when the rest of us would be running out, you've got to have balls of solid rock, mi amigo! You will get through this. It may take some time and some doing, but you will come through this storm, hopefully with at least one dream still intact.
So grab those shoulders and pretend their mine, cry a little, smile a little and find your path again. The road is before you, leading forwards. Awaken the sleeping, we shall be free.
Your pal, and hopefully someone you call friend,
D'Artagnon
It's not the wolf you see you should fear, but all the ones he howls with. Don't be afraid of the song, but don't piss off the choir.
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Re: I wish I would have never found this place. 
Can you say why ... Please .... 
At the risk of pissing you off 
Supportive of What??? I disagree totally. 
Re: Supportive of What??? I disagree totally. 
