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Registered: January 1970
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Please let me....it won't take long.
The kids that come to this MB are getting lost in the shuffle. Look down the page and you won't see many of their names. We talk every night on IMs but don't post our questions here anymore and we don't know the answers to our questions.
I know this isn't a board for teenyboppers but it used to be friendly. I've tried other MBs and I still come back here. I still try to find what seems to be lost. So many people have silenced themselves; read but don't respond.
I know this isn't real life. I know people come and go. But there are so many people that I know are still here but don't talk.
We have so many things happening in our lives that we don't know how to handle and we have nowhere to turn. It hasn't been that long since I would have told you what was troubling me, or Tommy or Andy or Setras or Angel or all the others. I think what made me really look at this was Brian not being able to tell us and Kanga pleading for everyone to step back and take a look at what's happening.
I'm glad the girls are here, Heathyr..Danielle..they add so much. I miss David and e and Trevor and Charlie and Steve and Ron and all the others who always had a good thought to make the problems seem not so horrible.
Life goes on.......I know that. I just miss being able to come here and say "This happened today, help me". Do you know how scarey it is to be 15-21 and gay in a world that would hate you? Terrified that you might be outed at school? Confused and alone in your own head? Of course you do. You were there. That's what we rely on.
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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I think were all pretty much fed up too.....rob
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smith, I have been hoping that somebody might say this. There are so many who aren't posting anything serious these days. I miss some of the old hands myself. Trevvor/TJ comes to mind immediately, just to name one.
I don't know what it will take for people to feel more safe again, maybe just the passing of time may help. But in the passing of time, people also drift off and don't return.
There is always the world of IM'ing, I suppose, but then it's just one person's opinion, and it's soo much richer to have a wide range of views.
I am following your lead and not trying to blame, just to point out a recent trend and hope that everybody can put their thinking caps on peaceably.
And having to plead for "peaceably" might be part of the problem.
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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smith,
You are right, even in the short time I have been a part of this board I have noticed many changes. Somtimes I am not sure that I'm welcomed here because I am a girl but most of the time I choose not to let that bother me. Thanks for recognizing both me and Heathyr.
I may not be able to answer your questions but I'm always willing to talk with you if you were ever to give me that chance. Hang in there!
(((((Hugs)))))
Danielle
"To the world you may be but one person, but to one person you may be the world!"
"Some people love you and some hate you.. those who hate don't know what they're missing and they're missing out!"
"Never underestimate your power to change yo
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"Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world..."
Once upon a time, in the kingdom of iomfats-land, people where happy and shared their worries and joys freely. The young ones wondered at the world and it's oddities, and the elders did their best to explain it all. The little joys of life became shining stars in the sky, for, as everyone knows, a shared joy is twice the joy. And when it rained, it didn't feel so bad, because a shared sadness is only half the sadness. And everyone knew, that no matter what, one could find kindness at iomfats-land.
Then, one day, it all started to change. Dark clouds covered the ever-warm sun and people started quarreling, for no reason, or so it seemed to the young ones. Some of the elders preferred to grow silent, avoiding the risk of causing hurt, and being hurt. At first, the young ones tried walking on eggshells, but even eggshells make noise when stepped on. So, one by one, they grew silent, as some of the elders had done. A few were brave enough to keep trying, but all too many gave up, most hoping, that one day, the storm would pass, and things would be, as they once were again.
"You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one."
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
-Master Li in Neil Gaiman's Sandman
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if that doesn't draw those who are lurking from lurk-dome, i don't know what will.
some of us newbies want to meet these silent ones too, you know. 
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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Location: currently So Cal
Registered: May 2002
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It's easy to get lost in the shuffle, and even easier if you help lose yourself. I know because I'm pretty good at it myself.
For better or for worse, perhaps both, the MB has changed. There are so many more people here than there were before and so many more posts. That makes it even more difficult to get noticed. It allows for more points of view and more love and concern. But also more arguing and bickering.
We aren't an intimate little household anymore. We are a diverse and interesting community. In a household, you know everyone and you know more or less how they will respond. In a community you don't have that advantage. A community has places to go to be heard, places to go to have fun and be entertained, and even places to hash out differences.
An MB community has threads instead of places and threads must be created. So instead of having a place to go, you must make your place. There's room for everyone and every place that needs a place.
I hope that you and the other young folk, not to mention the older ones and the GIRLS!, don't become discouraged or intimidated by the growth of the MB. It was bound to happen. Just keep carving out your place, speak up, make yourself be heard. Some of us might not be around as much, but there are plenty of others who have joined in and are ready and willing to help.
As for me, I'm still here. But my time is more limited. I've been job hunting, babysitting my granddaughter, getting ready to start school (Oct 1), and in general trying to keep my sanity when everyone around me is trying to steal it. I'm trying to contribute, but a post like this one now takes three or four hours to write between interruptions and sometimes becomes so incoherent that I simply delete it instead of posting.
Besides all that, YOU have been taking up a LOT of my time. Reading that story of yours has been one of the few pleasures that I have taken the time to allow myself. ;-D Keep up the good work.
{{{BIG 'OL HUGS}}} for anyone who wants or needs them.
Think good thoughts,
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I support the entire post. It seeks to restore what was here and why it was designed. I am going to watch this thread, knowing that these are my design principles being echoed by another. smith, I support you and all who respond to this message positively.
There are to be no "isms" on this board. Especially sexism and racism. Girls are as welcome as boys. Always have been and always will be.
smith, the floor is yours. The others? Help smith to get us back on track, please.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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for no other reason than i talk too much.
i changed my mind though, only to say that even though i'm new here, and have started out kind of .. shakily, i'll do whatever it takes to help make this place what it was. partly because i want to see how it was, as well as i understand how important it is to have a place to go, where you don't feel threatened, or silenced.
what will it take, then? i'm not sure. i just know i want to help. i'm grateful to this place already, for meeting rich and danielle, and for hopefully having a chance to know a couple others better than fleeting (they know who they are). but i'd like to meet those who have gone silent, too. this was their haven, this was smith and brian's haven, everyone's, and it should still be that way.
so i'll whisper: come out, come out, wherever you are.
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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speaking as one of the girls, i wanted to say i don't feel intimidated by the MB growth, however, i feel intimidated, and bad/sad that people have gone silent partially because of growth, and being new i'm part of that growth.
i "pledged" elsewhere i'd never start fights, and i'm in the process of (trying to) rectify a thing or two that i didn't mean to tarnish. if the growth change from household to community is what has some silent, on my behalf and portion of that i'm so sorry. i know, at least partially, what it feels like, because i came here looking for a household; a home away from home, people who understood and perhaps the chance to make a few friends who are more than fleeting, and who i don't have to pretend with.
like i said in another post, i'll do anything in my power to help make this place what it was -- so i can see how it used to be, as well as do my part to make sure those who've gone silent could feel comfortable again.
so i'll take your hug, and raise you two.
-h.
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Many people do..... Need to try to say something that is.....
Some people do the best they can.....
To others it appears to be that best is not good enough.....
What is the answer?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I'm going to take a momenrt to harken back to the recent, recent at least in my mind history.
I am 49 and had the good, or in some minds maybe bad, fortune to grow up and come of age during a time of great cultural change, a time I have had many younger people say they wish they could have been a part of, and some take on the trappings of that time.
One thing about that time is that we found life is change. One change was that by forse of numbers the yougth of the world found they had a voice, not only that but that we had something to say, and it was important and very worth while
All things change nothing is destin to remain the same, how sad if it did. So I say lets not try and reclame something that is past. Lets take what is here and now and make something even better and more inclusive. Something my genration failed to do.
Here I must say we can not do it without those younger ones that have graced this board. I implore you the youth to help (Some of us are getting old and worn anad jadded, I speak for myself here!)We need you guys maybe even more than you need us!
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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Location: currently So Cal
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I don't know that the board could or even should return to what it was. It was what it was, it is what it is, and will be what it will be. The evolution of the board is neither a good thing, nor a bad thing. It simply is. Anyplace is going to grow and develop. As it does, it will have growning pains.
As members of this family, or perhaps now community, it is our job to work towards making it what we would like for it to be. Long ago it was easy. there weren't many of us, so there were fewer to disagree. Now there are many, and many more to disagree about what this place should be. There's nothing wrong with that. People will come, people will go, and for a wide variety of reasons. But as long as we welcome them and give them a voice, this place will continue to serve it's purpose; whether it is a household or a neighborhood, a family or a community.
Think good thoughts,
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Registered: March 2012
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Hi smith ...
I have a friend that thinks the world of this place ..I haven't been here for some time now .. but he keep telling me that this place will get back to what it was like and it will be a " Safe Place to be at " so on what he believes ..I post this here and maybe it will help you to get what you are looking for ..
Best Friends :
How to Grow a Friend ...
A Twelve-Step Program .
The best time to grow a best friend is before you need one!
1. People Equal Friends.
There is a certain chemistry with friends just as in a love relationship. Therefore, contact with other people is the first building block to grow a friend. Friends can't grow in a vacuum. Best friends take time.
2. Talking Is Essential Among Friends.
Talking between friends requires reciprocity. In a mutually satisfying friendship, both friends talk and both friends listen. Friends talk appropriately to each other.
3. Friends Acknowledge Friends.
Friends acknowledge each other when talking. Many conflicts in your personal relationships can be avoided if you will take the time to acknowledge other's feelings and points of view.
4. Friends Listen to Friends.
Listening to friends in an important step in building a closer friendship. We often take listening for granted, never realizing what it means to really listen to a friend.
5. Friends Attend to Friends.
Friends focus during conversations. Friends pay attention in conversations. It means that your ears, your eyes, your body and your feelings are all focused on that person at the time.
6. Friends Show Empathy With Friends.
Empathy is identifying with your friend's feelings and seeing life through your friend's eyes. Confidences are freely given when they are received with empathy among friends.
7. Friends Touch Friends.
Touching is a warm form of communication between friends. When you see best friends communicating, you will notice friends "listen with their eyes," stand close together, and touch comfortably.
8. Friends Praise Friends.
Affirmation is a powerful tool for growing a friend. Genuine praise can affect your friends' lives. Be liberal with praise for all of your friends, including your casual ones.
9. Friends Are Loyal and Trustworthy.
Trust and loyalty go hand-in-hand for friends. Friends can trust you with their secrets, both large and small, because good friends never break a confidence. Good friends are forever loyal!
10. Friends are Equal.
Friends are on a seesaw. In a healthy relationship, friends are equals. Not 50/50 every time, of course, but with a true, lasting friendship it always evens out in the end.
11. Friends Reveal Their Feelings.
We feel closest to our friends when we are suffering together, when we feel like our friend needs us, or when we feel a friend has shared something of great importance with us.
12. Friends Forego Mind Reading.
The friend who thinks, "If you really liked me, you could read my mind" can not have an adult friendship. No friend can read your mind. And you can not read your friend's mind.
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marc
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I want to begin this by saying that no one ever intentionally ever tried to allienate any other person from this place.
Now that being said, perhaps you or some of the others could shed some light as to how you are feeling about this situation and most importantly what should be done?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I am not sure what changed exactly. I think that I to wish for things to be a little more like they used to be.
Maybe, just maybe, we can work to make it even better. The ones left that do post need to make this effort on behalf of those that are just looking.
No one can force participation, but maybe we can do better at encouraging it.
Listening to Ricks words might be a great start if we think of them everytime we set our words down.
May love and happiness shine through for all of you,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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I choose the question mark because I am not sure how I feel about this board now. I try to read it every day, but some days I get so pissed off at the first few posts that I quickly move on the other activities. Other times I spend a lot of time just reading and rereading the posts because they are so good and so full of love for each other.
Why I do not post as much as I used to is now more a matter of time than desire. I have expanded my activities with the local schools significantly since the school year started, and I was very busy with my kids' visit this summer so my time has been limited (as people who were left hanging in my story on Nifty for three months will tell you).
But I do read often, and care very, very much for you all. I am basically a very shy person so I normally do not respond until I get to know you better through your posts. And crowds (including crowded threads) make me nervous. I am trying to overcome both weaknesses.
A lot of you have helped significantly in my life and sanity without knowing, and I cherish that aid. I am very reluctant to discuss particulars on this board or identify individuals, but please, please know that I am grateful from the bottom of my heart.
After spewing that, and going in many different directions at the same time so ineloquently, I will shut up before I alienate more. Except for one item. We need more young people on this board who are willing to speak out with their thoughts, ideas, and questions. For they are our future and, will some day be the geezers here. ;-D
Hugs, Charlie
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Love and happiness all your days,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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Registered: March 2012
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i come along here sometimes to view the board mainly for ashley's benefit. i can't equate with your feelings exactly but as to the hopelessness felt by young people who find themselves at a crossroads they have no frame of reference to handle, that i understand.
from a perspective of a father who has had to watch a son go through this ordeal for a long time, i can assure you all that a rethinking of ideas is in order. i dare say that most of you have had to come to terms with your sexuality one way or another and the problems attached to it. maybe, some of you need to step back and try ever so hard to think what it was like for you at 12-17.
try not to vent spleens or reply too fast with anger and zeal. remember on the other side of your monitor is a very scared and insecure person who is holding their hand out and hoping it will be taken by someone they can confide in and maybe trust?
i have posted here before and gotten few replies. i know of others who have mentioned similar things. not everyone that needs help is 15 or 16, some are 40+? and they need your understanding as well.
please don't see this as an attempt to admonish any one person but just to remind some that life has shades of grey. smith is right and i thank him for his post. this also will be forwarded on to ashley, smith.
david
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smith
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all daddies were as loving and kind as you. We wouldn't need the MBs and we wouldn't feel scared. But life isn't like that. Ashley is so very lucky he has you.
Please give Ashley my love and huge {{{hugs}}} smith
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trevor
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IMHO as long as the attacks continue, it isn't a place of safety.
I've been stopping by every week or two for awhile, hoping and wishing they have stopped, but they haven't. I don't come here to be attacked or challenged, even if in a half-joking "oh you know I'm kidding" manner. I know some enjoy debates, but that should be limited to theoretical or philosophical topics rather than every person's viewpoint that doesn't align with the attacker's, especially in very personal threads. I'm sure our younger family members get teased at school in a "half joking" manner, too.:'-(
To add a new perspective to a conversation is one thing, and our diversity in many categories is one of the great things about the people here, and more so with the new people (::waves - hi!::) But to attack everyone else's viewpoint is altogether different.
Some could say I should just be more thick-skinned and ignore it, but surely there are some even more sensitive than I.
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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The attacks have stopped.
I should really qualify that. The attacks have stopped by my decree. I have tried persuasion, requests, so many other things and have found that they worked briefly.
We are likely to see one more attack, I suspect, and we are seeing the last flailing blows of a couple, but there will be no more of this here. It thus returns to the definition at the header.
Now the rest is up to us. All it needs for (bad things) to prevail is for good men to do nothing. As we know. Equally great restraint is called for when attacked, both to ignore the attack and to post a controlled response.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Registered: January 1970
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We're doin' our best. We miss you.
{{hugs}} smith :-/
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Thanks for that thoughtful post, Rick.
Nice to see you back
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Thanks David for posting that ..
and I hope Ashley is doing good .
Tell him I said Hi ..
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I am glad to see you here as well. You have a knack for digging up these little gems to share. 
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Hi again Trevor! And Charlie!! And Nick! And Steve! And Mr. Dawson!
I can't tell you how pleased I am to see things settling down again and old friends cooming out of the woodwork!! YAAAAAAY!!;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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No Message Body
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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... but suprisingly it caused me to hurt a little, smith. I'm pretty sure my father is great daddy to his two sons that live with him and my step mum. But, I've only met the guy once, so I can't be too sure... He was never there as a daddy for me... Even if he is the best daddy in the world, he will never be mine... Even when my Mum ges married, I doubt anyone will ever be able to be my real daddy...
I sometimes wish I had any daddy, even a bad one, just because a mummy alone can never be enough, even if she gives 120%. I'm sure even sometimes people have a great mummy and a great daddy, but even that isn't enough...
Still it would be nice if everyone could have such a kind loving daddy, I'm sure that's what you meant, JJ, it was just your wording that unintentionally got to me...
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
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I haven't been around as much. Not sure whether that is a good or a bad thing for the mood of this place. I'm off in Japan, trying to grow up as best I can, while living on my own in a big scary country. People say that you are an adult when you are 18, but I think 'adulthood' is a status that takes a lot longer than that and most people probably never get there... My entire online life has been lazy recently, I really need to be in the right mood before I post anything and seeing an overwhelming number of new posts, seeing the same old fights still happening and a few other things just cause me to lose the little motivation I have. I have occasionally posted a few no-text messages recently and some other things, but I hope this place can start feeling safe again, though even if it IS safe, with increased members it is going to feel a little scary, just because so many people are around and so many posts travel through here. A smaller membership always creates a safer feeling environment, though also one where it is perhaps more dangerous should the trust be breached....
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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"
"I'm afraid, grandfather"
"Hush child, I am beside you. What is the matter my boy?"
"Wolves haunt my dreams, they frighten me"
"The moon shines down bringing peace to the land, the wolves call to it, hailing it. In the dark we oft see things not there. Your blue shirt, the one you favor above all others, in the night might seem as a ghost, dark and sinister…"
"What does that have to do with anything, grandfather?"
"The wolf's howl comes to remind you that it is darkest before dawn, child. Always remember that! As frightening as it might get, as hard as it might seem, the shadows are sometimes just in your head. At those times, dear grandchild, look for the wolf in you; find the courage to hail the moon that shall show you the path, the truth…"
"I don't understand grandfather, I don't…"
"Hush child, there is love here – you are safe, you are wanted, always, for ever!"
A place of safety- remember that...
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It just feels different now. That was the way I felt but then change began and I wasn't ready for it at the time so I drifted away. When I tried to return some time later it was a different mood and I just didn't fit in as I used to, I didn't have the strangth to start again so I just gave up.
They say you can never come home again... maybe now I understand what they mean...
I'm sorry I just don't know what else to say, I'm not sure of anything anymore...
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I hope you do know I would never hurt anyone intentionally. I was talking about myself when I said that about a perfect world....a world where a boy could say "Daddy, I'm gay" and he would open his arms and hug the boy and say "I love you and you're beautiful".
I'm so sorry if my words hurt you. {{soft hug}} smith
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I know, hope I didn't sound accusatory or anything... I know you are a sweet guy, even though we don't talk much, and obviously you were well intentioned. It did make me think though, it was myself that let that thinking get a little too depressing, though. Not really an intense pain or sadness, just a little something that makes me feel a little regretful, just wishing things could be different.
It passed quickly enough, though, I get sad about having no Dad from time-to-time, but I still had it pretty good, with a great Mum. Even if she doesn't particularly like me being gay, she still loves me and shows that she does most of the time.
It is hard being an accident, though. Knowing that you have made your Mum's life heaps harder. Being a parent at sixteen is never gonna be easy, and when you're a single Mum who has dreams of their own, but sacrifices to raise a child, working in a supermarket for 15+ years. Yeah, I am an accident, but Mum made the most of it, and loves me with all her heart. I respect her a heap, but there are still times when I just wish I had a big strong daddy to hug me, even if only once a year... But anyway, I'm going off topic... Maybe I can talk more in another topic, on another day...
I know the intention of your post and I respect that. You're a great guy and even though we've never had any real friendship, I thank you anyway for the little bits of wisdom you've shared here and there... {{hugs back (and front?)}} See ya around
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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smith
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Registered: January 1970
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Yes, you can come home again.....home just never looks quite the same because you bring different things in the suitcase and maybe the furniture has been rearranged, someone has moved away, others moved in. Please find the strength to be safe.
For you
The Howl of the Pack on a Moonlit Night
I sit alone on the prairie I am watching the sun go down.
As the sun goes down I hear the ancient sound of the flute that the Indians play.
As the moon rises and the sun disappears, I hear the ancient howl of the wolf.
The howl stirs my spirit and brings out the wolf inside me.
The howl of the pack brings me to life.
So I plunge into the darkness to find the pack that I long to see again.
Deeper and deeper into the dark forest I run searching for the pack.
Across rivers and streams I know they are out here in the darkness.
Once again I hear the howl guiding me to the pack that I long to find.
As I come into the pack, I feel so welcomed and loved.
The pack howls in the darkness so others can find their way as well.
**You can feel alone or you can feel part of us. It's up to you. You can be sure of one thing..........you are welcome.
smith
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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It was not appropriate for the public side of this board, and caused grief. Please handle fence mending of that nature offline
[Updated on: Sun, 21 September 2003 21:29]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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May I echo those thoughts, feelings, and hugs?
Yes, it would be a wonderful world indeed if the fear that makes a message board like this so necessary and vital didn't exist. Even so, (as I just told one of us in an e-mail), I still feel grateful (in a rather selfish way, I suppose) for the way it has allowed me to meet and make such dear and wonderful friends. Thanks.
We do not remember days...we remember moments.
Cesare Pavese
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trevor
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Really getting into it |
Registered: November 2002
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It's okay - I'm really not sure of much either, so you are among friends who understand. I'm glad you spoke up though. That takes a bit of courage. Pull up a chair for a bit and add what you want when you want.
Home may change, and we may need to get away at times, but home is home. There's always a bit of yelling at *my* home, but some of it is because we truly care about each other and are honest enough to speak our minds. We forgive easily and hug often.
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robert bryce
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Really getting into it |
Registered: January 1970
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interesting post,had some of the unpleasent posts been returned with love and compassion,things might not have got so out of hand.It would seem to me that if someone is combative or defensive,I would at least try to return with friendship and some measure of understanding.I am trying to be a better person,but still feel defensive.basically I think we all are on the same page,just a small understanding problem and that can be worked out...rob
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Steve
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Really getting into it |
Location: London, England
Registered: November 2006
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He is OK. Although he is pressured with exams he has a break from university and is spending the time at home. He does not have Internet access there, at the moment, so he will not see the messages we have left for him. But he will read them in the end. I think he needs a few "virtual hugs", so please let there be lots of emails waiting for him when he gets back on line. That will make him very happy.
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