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marc
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Is it ethical to take photos of people and without their knowledge or concent take the photos and put them on the internet?
Furthermore, is it ethical to put them on a predominately gay site?
If someone known to the person were to view them, could the person not be harmed by the impressions which could possibly be drawn meerly because of their presence at a gay site?
I was just wondering?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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robert bryce
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its done all the time,vid cams on guys shoes to view up girls skirts...hehehe.......rob---(sorry girls not me).
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If you have a particular incident you wish to discuss, it is more honest to just come out and say so instead of doing it in a semi-sneaky, roundabout fashion like this.
Second, may I remind you how you managed to royally piss me off when Ashley had to go away? It took me MONTHS to even start reading your posts again. Don't ruin the small amount of trust I have managed to build up with you!
Third, the guy I believe you're referring to was fully clothed and knew I was taking pics. Hell, he even posed for several of them.
Fourth, the pics which I think you're referring to aren't put on a "predominately gay site", in fact they're not put on any site at all. They're put IN MY PERSONAL WEBSPACE which I'll do whatever I damn well please with without asking you or anyone else for permission, thankyouverymuch!
Fifth... Well, I'm not gonna say that.
Wherever you intend to go with this thread, I recommend you tread very lightly. Don't make me ask you for an apology (again). If you do, I'll never EVER talk to you again, is that understood?
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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marc
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It was a question reguarding ethics.....
Nothing more.....
I said nothing about pics taken secretly.....
And Pic's advertised on a gay site for view.... are indeed made available on a gay site.... irreguardless of the url that houses them....
Am I not entitled to ask a question? Or am I only allowed to flow along with whatever whims are prevelant at the time?
I was by no means pointing a finger at anyone.... If I were I would have posted in your thread.... It is you that are taking it personally....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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robert bryce
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Oh goody goody we got us some dirt we can gossip about--details guys details...Someone was being a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad boy and I want to hear about it.......Graphic detail now please....rob
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marc
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Sorry for having a social consciense,,,,,,
Tim, Please delete this thread at your earliest convience
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I think it was a valid question to raise but ...
I think the timing leaves you with an implied connection to Lenny's post. I think if you didn't want to draw a direct connection to Lenny, then maybe a little greater care could have been taken to insure him and others that it was only about the ethical questions you have. Being that this has already happened, maybe we can say our apologies and move on to another topic.
Let peace reign here please,
Kevin
"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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Marc,you will ALWAYS have my friendship and support..You stood by me as a brother and as far as I am concerned you CAN ask any question...I was just being a little camp..I hope you will forgive me,and I dont think the thread needs deleting.It was a valid question in my humble opinion...rob
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an ambush...? ??
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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timmy
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It's actually a heavily legally regulated area if the pictures are of a data subject (defined to mean a natural living person) who is a data subject from the European Economic Area.
A picture is legally "data capable of identifying a unique living individual". In some legislatures it is "Sensitive data" because it is also capable of identifying ethnic type, state of health, religious affiliation. It is potentially possible that such pictures could also identify or imply sexual orientation.
Under all these circumstances a formal permission from the data subject is legally required to pass these data to a third party (the unknown people on the internet who view them) and to pass data to a third country (outside the EEA) where adequate data security does not exist. Such countries legally include the USA, since it is considered by the EEC (note not the EEA since the EEA is a description wider than the body which is the EEC).
That having been said the risk of a private individual running a non commercial website being made subject of a prosecution is remote since that individual is not using the data in the course of a business.
The risk is of the web host being prosecutes instead, but only if it has an operation geographically in the country where the data subject makes a complaint.
I bet that was more information that you required::-)
The ethical side is really down to the people concerned.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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Nice pix girl,when I was motorcycling id be proud to have you on my byke..rob
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marc
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I would have posted on his thread.....
I intended a question reguarding an issue (which was brought to mind by his posting of that link) reguarding what is ethical reguarding making what was concieved as private pictures public on the internet.
Have you an opinion on the subject?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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There are many ways of pointing fingers, as you well know, marc.
Yup,I sure do have an opinion...it's tempest in a teapot, signifying nothing of great import one way or the other.
You have to look at the intent.
Course that's just my view.
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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marc
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Needs to get a life! |
Registered: March 2003
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And just vague enough to mean absolutly nothing.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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When I said goodbye to Ashley you tried to make me look like a god-damn pervert and sexual predator, gee, maybe that made me a bit over-sensitive you think? You'll just have to live with that since after that maybe I don't trust you quite as far as some other people here.
Maybe you just didn't think of it, but you should have posted a disclaimer if you indeed meant there to be no connection between our threads, because there did indeed seem to be an implied one.
I'll let the matter drop now since you said there is none. Just be more considerate of other people and how they might interpret things in the future alright?
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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timmy
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Having had my attention drawn to this thread and to Lenny's post I have taken steps to protect him and the gentleman whose pictures they are by removing the link from his post. Peole may still ask for the link and it may still be given to them. I think there was simply enthusiasm for a pleasant excursion.
I don't think this needs to become a contentious issue.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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What a lovely post..Dredging the past and raking up the mud..As a child I used to love playing in the mud.My mother hated that..This really sounds like fun,can we all play in the mud?..Please Marc dont fall for these little side bars,,soon Timmy will break out the paddle and spank the baaaad boys.....rob....all spattered with mud.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Such a post would have been better as a private email. Next time, please?
While I appreciate the thoughts oyu exprerss, I think we are moving past expressing them directly here. I think your post triggered a thought with Marc, and there was no real way of his leaving enough distance in time between your post and his thought.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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robert bryce
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Registered: January 1970
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Of course a person with an inflexable mind set is going to see things through rose tinted glasses..I see a lot of people of good character here on this board,able to overlook transgressions with good fellowship and a sense of community..What an awesome thing we are building here,what a fantastic learning experience...rob
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Re: A question of ethics...... 
First of all. Marc... 
Re: A question of ethics...... 
Re: I was asking a serious question about a serious matter..... 
Yes I did take it personally because of the timing. 
