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icon5.gif A question of emotions ......  [message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 00:14 Go to next message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

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A few weeks ago I was watching a skit on Saturday Night Live (yes I have no life lately), and they had a cartoon skit called "The Ambiguously Gay Duo."
In this particular episode the arch villain tried to 'out' the duo as being gay. He tried many things, one of them was a song he played in which the duo began to cry tears. The villain then said "see they cannot help themselves"!

I have myself shed a tear to that particular song in the past. My question for you is this:

Are we more sensitive than straight guys? Are we more in touch with emotion? Or are we just wimps, as they tell me we are?

This is a topic very near to my heart as my family tells me I am too sensitive at times. Is this just me? Or is it a quality we share?

I am a bit worried about this. I am worried about me. Their are several songs that bring me to tears when I am alone. Am I a freak this way?

Your overly sensitive family member,

Kevin



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Try looking at it in a different way.  [message #16328 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Perhaps - and this is just a thought - it's not so much a question of feeling emotions as it is showing them.



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Re: Try looking at it in a different way.  [message #16329 is a reply to message #16328] Thu, 09 October 2003 00:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your probably right!

BTW your really cute.

Hugs,

Kevin



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Awww.  [message #16330 is a reply to message #16329] Thu, 09 October 2003 00:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks. You too, I'm sure.

Yeah, I was wondering how much of that might merely be the product of repressed or non-visible feelings. After all, Men don't cry, right? The funny part is that music has an undeniable effect on EVERYONE. Every single recordable culture in history has incorporated music into itself somehow. So, why try to deny such an obvious attraction to music?

Well, that was my informational and thought-provoking tidbit for the day. Tune in tomorrow when we discuss the guy who thought it would be a good idea to harvest eggplant and how we would punish him if he were alive today.



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Re: A question of control........  [message #16331 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup... To be sure there are many many gays out there that are just plain over emotional.

Now the real question.... Is this a bad thing....

No.... Being in touch with your feelings are not bad at all.... Just as long as the emotional outpour doesn't put undue psychological pressure on your friends, family, partner.

Crying when you are upset means you are upset. Crying because of a social injustice means you are caring. Crying to get your own way.... well lets not go there.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: A question of control........  [message #16332 is a reply to message #16331] Thu, 09 October 2003 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh by the way......

Kevin (my Kevin) is an emotional type too....

He cries over some advertisments on TV.... The one for Folgers coffee where the son comes home on X-mas morning and starts the coffee....

I think it is sweet that he takes home and family so seriously....

After all I fit into his equasion now too....

And I wouldn't have him any other way....

Marc



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon5.gif Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16333 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I hear that particular song, I begin to tear sometimes.
I rarely see straight guys show that much emotion...
But I have seen it, so in my experience, it's more of being over oneself enough to show what one feels.



You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16334 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you told me you wanted my input on this, so i'll give it, but it might not go over well with some. after all, what do i know? i'm a girl, not a gay guy. unfortunately.

it has been my experience that the *majority* of "more sensitive than usual males" have been gay, OR bi-sexual. it has been my experience that the *majority* of straight guys i've known or dated have been vastly, or primarily insensitive.

there are always exceptions. my brother is straight -- he is very sensitive. the boy who i dueted with in orchestra and chamber was gay, and he was not a very sensitive person at all. i don't think there are black and whites here, but there *are* stereotypes. but sometimes, stereotypes are based on truths, or, pieces of a truth. however said stereotype takes that truth and blows it WAY out of proportion, as we all know.

so i don't think it's just you. i think emotions and sensitivity don't have much to do with gender or gender preference, and have more to do with other things: how a person was raised or how they weren't, their friends, their surroundings, their experiences, how in tune they are with humanity or themselves, etc.

hope that helped.



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Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16342 is a reply to message #16334] Thu, 09 October 2003 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never have had a problem with sensitive people...and I wish more were in touch with their feelings. But that's just me...how do YOU want to be, really?

Is this something you want to change? If you do change, what do you want the resulting "new-ish Kevin" to act like?

Will you like and respect the changes?

We'll probably like you either way, but be sure you do what feels right for you!



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Re: Awww.  [message #16346 is a reply to message #16330] Thu, 09 October 2003 03:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This strikes a chord with me. (Sorry, I have only just realized the awful pun. It was unintentional.)

Recently I went to a (classical music) concert. Most unexpectedly the orchestra started the evening by playing our national anthem and everybody started singing along. This is most unusual in this country and doing so could even be considered to be a bit 'kitsch'. But, against my own better sense, I found myself choking up so much that I was truly afraid that I was going to make an ass of myself. (No comments, please! Very Happy)

Yes, I agree, this kind of sudden emoting is the result of too much repressed emotion.
Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16350 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 03:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hope you don't mind me putting in my two cents worth but i would have to say it is a shared quality. i myself have been brought to tears by songs and also some of the stories i have read on this site. i do not consider myself a wimp. i try not to ever let anyone see this side of me but it is there8-)
Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16351 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kevin, I personally think the reason others tell you that you are too emotional is because they don't understand, and it makes them uncomfortable.

An example... my mom is not a very emotional person.. my dad is... I could always cry and be emotional around my dad. I could be the soft kid I was... with mom...no way.. she would kick my a** if I cried over something that wasn't worth crying about....

To this day, almost every single time (I do not exaggerate) I hear the song'Superman' by Five for Fighting, I cry. It speaks to me about my own coming out and accepting who I am... Am I overly sensitive to cry about that, or do I allow the music to speak to me???

In my estimation, a man who can openly show his emotions is a true man... gay or straight, it doesn't matter. I believe we have emotions for a reason... and we should walk in them...

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icon6.gif Re: A question of emotions ......  [message #16361 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kevy, I don't think it's a matter of being more sensative. Nor is it a matter of being more in touch with your feelings. I think a lot of straight guys are heavily into their more stoic image. A matter of style over substance. They are kinda trained, by their own actions and those of their peers, to being tough, strong, brutal when necessary. Able to make and deal with tough choices and not question them.

Does that mean they don't feel it? No. Just that they don't show it. Any show of emotions that are seen as unmanly are often a point of ridicule.

Does that make it right? Hell, no! I mean, if the straight guys are so insecure in themselves that they all have to have this alpha-male mentality, and even that they freak if they don't have an alpha to compare with, to set the standard, as it were, well then what's the point in being alive if you have to supress it to that point?

I see strength and flexibility as a key in anything in life. Not stoic, stony determination and a lack of showing emotions. So, if you have to vent once in a while, and crying at a song is a form of venting, go ahead, man. You're a hell of a lot less likely to bust a blood vessel, have a heart attack or just plain die early because you let it out. Think about your Dad and how he looks all the time. If he's anything like mine, he keeps it all inside and winds up looking angry a lot.

Not something I could do, ya know?



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Thank You Bambam, that is the same song used in the skit I spoke of. Ironic huh?

Kevin



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I want to thank all of you for giving me your views ...  [message #16366 is a reply to message #16327] Thu, 09 October 2003 14:35 Go to previous message
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I value your opinion above many others. I don't want to change myself, I kinda like that I am emotional, it's a big part of who I am. While I am not cryng at the moment, I am really touched by your words in this thread. You are really wonderful people.

Machelli: I really lvoe you take on life and the way you express yourself, thank you (cutie ... hehe)

Steve: Gosh I have missed you, glad your here.

Marc: you know how I feel about you. Thank you friend.

Jaman (Cristopher): thank you my new friend. Hope we get to know each other better as time goes by.

Girl: Oh you already know what I think, thanks.

David: Thank you, I agree with you most of the time anyway

tony: while I don't know you well yet, I hope we can get to know each other over time. Thank you for sharing.

Bambam: I am not sure how you guessed that song, but it does that to me too! Did you see the show?

D'Artagnon: Thanks. My dad only very recently told me he loves me, he has never shown emotion before. Maybe I am a good influence on him.

Thank you all, you are truely wonderful people,

Kevin



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