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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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I have seen this type of cartoon/anime drawing from time to time....
For the most part alot of them seem far to intergenerational for my tastes....
There are those that get off on that sort of thing, I personally find it repulsive.
but many are done in good taste as well... One just has to cull the bad from the good....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Why would anyvbody flame you for liking art like this, I wonder? I haven't ever seen much of it, but it looks interesting, and it does seem like art to me, and not lewd or crude or rude. (THat's what a friend of mine calls the "3 Udes")
And, sort of what Marc is saying, I guess (altho we each may have different tastes in art) good art is only different from bad art in the eye of the beholder.
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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They even have gay computer dating games where you try to woo awesomely hot guys so you can get them in bed with you (complete with animated action and stuff). Not sure that's my cup of tea really, but still, it's cool they got it.  We're so damn morally uptight over here... Not saying they haven't got their hang-ups over there too (because god knows that is true!), but in some ways they're a lot more open.
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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hmmm...
i find the bottom two very, very gorgeous. in fact they remind me HEAVILY of the characters i submitted a story here for...
particularly the very bottom, as they are in an alley but 'dressed for school,' as said mystery characters of mine and someone's just began school. or well, going BACK. but!
i'm really not into it enough to know specifics. to me, they look teenaged, at least the pictures you showed. so!
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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smith
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On fire! |
Registered: January 1970
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I don't know much about that particular group, the guy on guy thing, but my walls are covered with Japanese manga that I draw. I really love the different ways to express emotion, especially the eye art.
I gotta say that the dark haired guy in the second picture is like totally wicked awesome 
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saben
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On fire! |
Registered: May 2003
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Being the resident Japanese correspondant. "Shonen-ai" literally means 'youth love' and refers to a style of anime which usually involves just that. It was started, I believe, by females artists in response to all the anime scenes in which involved females, either together, or portrayed in sexy ways. Despite seeming gay in nature, it has a definate target audience of females and usually portrays young boys finding their way, or young boys having older characters 'show them the way'. Another term for shonen-ai is 'yaoi' which is an abbreviation for 'yama-nashi ochi-nashi imi-nashi' which means roughly, "no climax, no resolution, no meaning".
Another term used by westerners to desribe fan-based yaoi is 'slash', where particular characters from a game or anime are paired, or slashed together. For example Sephiroth/ Cloud (from the game, Final Fantasy 7). When slashing characters it is important to note the order of names, in most cases the character before the slash is the 'seme' or dominant, and the character after the slash is the 'uke' or submissive. Although the relationships are seldom actual BDSM, there is a certain level of 'inequality' (although I use that word losely) in the relationships.
Lenny mentioned Japanese culture is, saying western culture was more morally uptight. However, Japanese culture is actually less accepting of true homosexuality. People here are so homogenous that for someone to be gay disturbs the natural order of things. Hence while people here may be gay, they are more likely to remain closeted and more likely to get married to a woman, too. I've been living in Japan 5 months, now, yet I still don't totally understand the Japanese attitude towards such things. I believe they consider it perfectly acceptable in other people and in fictional characters, because, after all being gay is a foreign problem, not a Japanese one, so they can afford to accept it on a distanced level.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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You have good taste! I think he's awesome too.
Friendship is the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person, having neither to weigh thoughts or measure words
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Where did you get the last pic?
The guy on the right is Shinji from Neon Genesis Evangelion, and he's...umm...really cute.
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Sorry Lenny- but I kind of forgot! ;-D
I just happened to be searching for shounen ai pics in yahoo and their names just sorta popped up.
I'll try to do another search and maybe I can give you the address. ^_^
You've seen Neon Genesis Evangelion too!
I also did- although there really isn't anything about Shinji AND Kaworu there. (Though I hoped there was). They just happened to be paired by shounen & yaoi fans a lot.
I also got another pic here.
:-[ I'm so... jealous of these two in the picture.
Come hell or high water- I'm DEFINITELY going to ask Stephen even JUST ONE HUG! JUST ONE, one of these days! ::-) I don't know if he'll like or will be comfortable with that idea though.  ??
"The worst way of missing someone is to be sitting right next to them knowing you can't have them." To Stephen Tsang, wherever you are.
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...Then I can find it myself without too much difficulty I guess.
I haven't watched NGE, I buy the manga books as they're released - much too slowly in my opinion, heh heh! There's no Kaworu character in the manga version (they're not exactly the same), maybe he's introduced late in the animé? (I will get it on DVD after I have all the manga volumes. I don't want to spoil myself to what happens later on. Don't think there's much left, they've waxed most of the angels by now.)
That 2nd pic was sweet too by the way, thank you!
Also... If you ask nicely without being too weird and freaky about it, I'm sure Steve'll give you a hug, or let you get one yourself even. He seems like a great friend, and if you explain it carefully enough I'm sure he'd understand...
Take care okies?
-L
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Hmm... Not that bad really,
but animé is not really my taste.
You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
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Where did ya learn that? Or did you just get the song for your signature off the internet? Just curious, since usually only Finnish people speak Finnish...
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
-Master Li in Neil Gaiman's Sandman
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I know a little bit of Finnish.
I'm a huge Nylon Beat Fan, so I picked it up from them.
You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
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I'm still curious as to where you learned Finnish, but if I'm being too... something, tell me to mind my own business. I'm not gonna mind But still, I think it's really cool that someone who doesn't live in Finland (and hasn't lived in Finland?) knows Finnish and Finnish bands is cool and if ya don't mind me asking, where did ya hear Nylon Beat the first time?
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
-Master Li in Neil Gaiman's Sandman
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1999, I was browsing the 'net, and saw the MP3 for: "Syytön" on a site with a bunch of songs from throughout Europe. I fell in love with it the first time,
and have been a Nylon Beat fan for 4 years now. Longer than any other band.
And no, I've never lived in Finland...
But, I wanted to know what they were saying, so I researched it.
I know around 50 words of Finnish from studying it.
You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
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Thanks, that's cool to know And if you ever need help translating something from Finnish, just ask.
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
-Master Li in Neil Gaiman's Sandman
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Ja ja.
How do you say: "I will still find my way"?
You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
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Ok, the "direct" translation would be something like "Löydän silti tieni" but that would be... you could say that, but it sounds a little weird. But I'm guessing you mean something along the lines "I'm gonna be ok, despite [whatever]"? That would be "Tulen kyllä toimeen" or "Pärjään kyllä" or "Pärjään kaikesta huolimatta" or "Tulen toimeen kaikesta huolimatta", in "written Finnish" anyway. The way some would actually say it on the street is "Kyllä mä pärjään", which translates to more or less "I'm gonna be fine/cool".
Hmm... a lot of babble over one sentence... but I hope it helps
Setras
That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed.
-Master Li in Neil Gaiman's Sandman
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Thanks...
You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me
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Shounen ai: please, don't flame me for this one! 
I love the art form !! 
If you give me the original file name of the picture... 
You speak Finnish? 
