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on a serious note----any comments about the vatican [message #16603]

Thu, 16 October 2003 15:31

robert bryce

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Anybody got any opinions about the noise about condoms comming from the vatican and the pope?????????????...dont be bashful......rob> Sad

Re: on a serious note----any comments about the vatican [message #16619 is a reply to message #16603]

Fri, 17 October 2003 02:33

jaman

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Disgusting, me thinks. It seems strange to me that the Vatican preaches respect for life, but then promotes spreading AIDS through neglect.
I think that it's hypocrisy.
Okey, I'll get off my soap-box now.

You said when you'd die that you'd walk with me every day
And I'd start to cry and say please don't talk that way
With the blink of an eye the Lord came and asked you to meet
You went to a better place but He stole you away from me

Actually... [message #16621 is a reply to message #16619]

Fri, 17 October 2003 04:02

machelli

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Darnit! Hit send prematurely. [message #16622 is a reply to message #16621]

Fri, 17 October 2003 04:08

machelli

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Anyway, in their defense, they are assuming that only MARRIED people have sex because that is the only intercourse they condone. So, they are also assuming that MARRIED people are not going to go around spreading any infectious diseases because they are MARRIED and therefore ought not to be sleeping around. However, this view is - of course - based on quite a number of assumptions that tend not to jive with current-day situations. But that IS what they were thinking when they said what they did.

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Re: Darnit! Hit send prematurely. [message #16625 is a reply to message #16622]

Fri, 17 October 2003 08:17

robert bryce

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I get the distinct impression that one is defending these people as being rational persons that are able to act in a responsible and rational manner..It would seem that their words and actions condemn them,however that is for history to decide I guess.What really surprises me is the lack of response to this post..Where is the moral outrage against the terrible crime that is being committed by these people????......rob> Sad

Well, firstly..... [message #16628 is a reply to message #16625]

Fri, 17 October 2003 12:22

marc

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Registered: March 2003
Messages: 4729

With all due respect,,,, Where are the links to the information in question?

It is an incorrect assumption that we all watch television and read news papers....

A little data will precipitate a little more response....

Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...

Hey Rob [message #16629 is a reply to message #16625]

Fri, 17 October 2003 12:29

E.J.

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Registered: August 2003
Messages: 565

I share your anger over this and have vented at several other boards. I intentionaly did not bring up the topic here, because I didn't want to stir things up.
You had asked before what the purpose was of the "yell, scream and Vent" board, Posts such as this one belong there. Yell and scream all you want and people yell back and all the anger and bad emotions stay over there and don't spread to the other message boards.

(\\__/) And if you don't believe The sun will rise
(='.'=) Stand alone and greet The coming night
(")_(") In the last remaining light. (C. Cornell)

No one is yelling.... [message #16632 is a reply to message #16629]

Fri, 17 October 2003 13:06

marc

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and any discussion, no matter how contraversial, as long as it is discussed with care and feelings for the other readers here is not a bad thing.

It really is a matter of personal control and keeping things in perspective.

I would still like to see the news feed that began all this about condom condemnation. Can anyone provide the link?

Re: Well, firstly..... [message #16642 is a reply to message #16628]

Fri, 17 October 2003 17:54

jaman

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A web-site with good reports on this is bbc.co.uk.

Re: Well, firstly..... [message #16645 is a reply to message #16642]

Fri, 17 October 2003 18:03

marc

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It seems to be a good site...

But if I wanted to wade through a site looking for the information I could do that about anywhere.

The direct link to the article is helpful. Anything less and I just don't have the time.

Re: Hey Rob [message #16654 is a reply to message #16629]

Fri, 17 October 2003 21:05

robert bryce

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I wasnt going to respond and I still will not,but just to let you know how much I value YOUR opinion... Sad

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Re: Well, firstly..... [message #16655 is a reply to message #16645]

Fri, 17 October 2003 21:27

jaman

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3176982.stm
Is the address that I copied from my browser-window.

Thanks...... [message #16657 is a reply to message #16655]

Fri, 17 October 2003 21:50

marc

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Messages: 4729

The Vatican's position on contraception has been adamantine for about as long as the concept itself.

The church's official view is that anything that prevents the bringing of new worshipers into the world is considered subversive to the mandated survival of the religion itself.

Thus the church spreads whatever misinformation as they deem fit to inflict on the unsuspecting masses.

Just as in the 10th century when disease, war, the sighting of comets and the like were used as tools of propaganda to entice the "flock" to listen and obey without question the authority of the church.

Just my 2 cents worth

Re: No one is yelling.... [message #16661 is a reply to message #16632]

Sat, 18 October 2003 01:38

E.J.

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Peolple should be yelling, I prefer not to do that here.

A few links:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200310141006.html
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20031103&s=pollitt
http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/NewViewNewsleft.cfm?Record=15247
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=571&ncid=751&e=4&u=/nm/20031015
http://uk.gay.com/headlines/5212
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=389732§ion=news
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1064740,00.html

Sorry if I upset some, I come here to get away from this stuff.:-/

(\\__/) And if you don't believe The sun will rise
(='.'=) Stand alone and greet The coming night
(")_(") In the last remaining light. (C. Cornell)

Re: Hey Rob [message #16662 is a reply to message #16654]

Sat, 18 October 2003 01:44

E.J.

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If that's the way you fell,I guess I'll have to rethink the part where I say that I AGREE with you.
I'll be quiet now....

(\\__/) And if you don't believe The sun will rise
(='.'=) Stand alone and greet The coming night
(")_(") In the last remaining light. (C. Cornell)

Re: Hey Rob [message #16665 is a reply to message #16662]

Sat, 18 October 2003 02:02

robert bryce

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just poking a bit of fun guy,though the topic is a serious one at that,it was only ment as a discussion topic.My feelings are quite neutral but I got to say that that other board left a bad taste for me as it seems more political than any other thing..Your just going to have to excuse my sense of humor..........rob

Re: No one is yelling.... [message #16666 is a reply to message #16661]

Sat, 18 October 2003 02:10

robert bryce

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WELL DONE FRIEND....this message board can be a place of enlightenment..Well done .....rob

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