A Place of Safety
I expect simple behaviours here. Friendship, and love.
Any advice should be from the perspective of the person asking, not the person giving!
We have had to make new membership moderated to combat the huge number of spammers who register
















You are here: Home > Forum > A Place of Safety > General Talk > Children of a Mad World, Lost in the Garden
icon9.gif Children of a Mad World, Lost in the Garden  [message #17773] Thu, 20 November 2003 11:14 Go to next message
dartagnon is currently offline  dartagnon

Likes it here
Location: Massachusetts and Florida...
Registered: June 2003
Messages: 357




In the aftermath of all the terrorism and bloodshed since the first Gulf War, the lesson in complacency of multiple bombings in the UK, all of Europe and that terrible morning in New York that September not long ago, you would think that someone would find a common thread that might help us all to get over this knot of hate, this ball of confusion that keeps coming up and killing people without reason.

And I know I'm jumping the gun a lot here, since we don't have all the answers about this business occuring in Turkey last weekend and now today, but it seems to me that the Al-Qaeda organization is now going so totally insane that they are even attacking Moslem mosques. That's right, they have harmed their own religious sites as well as attacking banks, Jewish Synagogs and random persons in the streets.

Kinda puts things into perspective when they are now willing to destroy as well as ignore thier own faith in order to strike out at others.

I wonder where the insanity and terrorism will end. There is a subtle lack of respect for human life in these people. Islam is a tolerant, loving, life-valuing religion with its origins tracable back to the beginnings of the Jewish and Christian faiths as well. How can children of the same God not at least respect each other enough to seek other avenues of redress for their grievances?

I grieve for the world. I send out my heart and prayers to those who died there this week, at the hands of strangers who are just blood-crazed in their cowardly need for violence. I send out my prayers to those that continue to pursue terrorism, that they may realize that the means are at least as important as the ends, and that they might evaluate exactly what it is they are fighting for. I feel great pity and sympathy for those that are left without their loved ones now, those who have been orphaned, widowed and widowered, and the ones who may have lost their children in these attacks.

May we all seek to find some solace in this madness. Some end to the violence. May we all realize just how terrible all of this is for everyone, not just those that got hurt, or those that survived, or those that are soon to be on the receiving end of military action that they keep calling down on themselves.

And may we all hope to just find peace, for all of us.



It's not the wolf you see you should fear, but all the ones he howls with. Don't be afraid of the song, but don't piss off the choir.
Re: Children of a Mad World, Lost in the Garden  [message #17777 is a reply to message #17773] Thu, 20 November 2003 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

On fire!
Location: Somewhere
Registered: September 2002
Messages: 1108




If you look at any society that is a breeding ground for terrorism, the common thread seems to be abject poverty. As the richest nation in the world I am ashamed at our country and many others for not addressing this problem. Heck, we cannot even fix that at home. Is everyone so self-centered that we cannot even make an attempt?

I am not saying that this is a justification. But I do believe that if we don't address the root causes we will never "win" the war on terrorism. If someone is willing to give their life to make a point, then perhaps we need to take a new tack. Killing does not stop killing. It only breeds more killing.

Fear is only a temporary motivator. We need to deal with the other issues like self determination.

*Kevin jumps off the soapbox*

Thank you,

Kevin



"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
What happens  [message #17781 is a reply to message #17773] Thu, 20 November 2003 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No One Special is currently offline  No One Special

Getting started

Registered: November 2003
Messages: 23




when a child in a play ground is harrassed repetedly? Eventually he will lash back. Sometimes not against the origional kids doing the tormenting.

Their retaliation for woes perpertraited in another venue do not necessarily justify the action to any one but the child.

The child feels vindicated in some small way and his target sits back and wondered what happened.

I do not condone random acts of violence. No sane person could.

I look at the (recent) history of the middle east, since the discovery of oil and gas, and see repeted abuses of western governments and companies against the culture and beliefs of these peoples.

They are lashing back as best (in their beliefs) as they can.



One is the lonliest number.
icon9.gif Re: What happens  [message #17782 is a reply to message #17781] Thu, 20 November 2003 16:32 Go to previous message
dartagnon is currently offline  dartagnon

Likes it here
Location: Massachusetts and Florida...
Registered: June 2003
Messages: 357




I fear you are more right than a lot of people are willing to admit, my friend.



It's not the wolf you see you should fear, but all the ones he howls with. Don't be afraid of the song, but don't piss off the choir.
Previous Topic: A few laughs....
Next Topic: My life is complete!
Goto Forum: