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icon5.gif Do you agree?  [message #17863] Mon, 24 November 2003 07:39 Go to next message
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The World Almanac is a very prestigious and serious annual publication that has now been published for more than two centuries!

In the 2004 edition it lists the 12 most significant events of the 20th century. I thought it might be interesting to see how much people here agree with the items and the order of significance. Here are the events in descending order of significance as given by the World Almanac 2004.

1. August 6th 1945: an atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima
2. September 1st 1939: Germany invades Poland and starts WW2
3. June 28th 1914: Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo, which caused WW1
4. November 7th 1917: Outbreak of Russian Revolution
5. September 11th 2001: Moslem terrorist attack on USA
6. June 6th 1944: D-Day, the beginning of the end of Nazi domination of Europe
7. July 20th 1969: Man lands on the moon
8. November 9th 1989: Fall of the Berlin Wall
9. September 27th 1908: First private automobile (Ford Model T) off the assembly line
10. May 14th 1948: Declaration of the State of Israel
11. November 22nd 1963: Assassination of President J.F Kennedy
12. August 15th 1947: India and Pakistan gain independence from Britain
Re: Do you agree?  [message #17865 is a reply to message #17863] Mon, 24 November 2003 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since when was September 11th 2001 in the 20th century?
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I'd have to agree with Nick on the issue of September 11, 2001. Clearly, bu numerical fact alone, it is not an event of the 20th century, as we know it, but of the 21st century.

Curiously enough, certain important events were left off that list. Discovery of the Polio vaccine, Invention of the Computer, Birth of Rock-n-Roll, the Advent of Powered Flight, or even the Fall of Communism. All the bad things got put on that list, and none of the good ones.



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Re: Do you agree?  [message #17867 is a reply to message #17866] Mon, 24 November 2003 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two things:

Thing #1. It was I who boobed. The orginal reads "the past 100 years", not 20th century. My apologies to all.

Thing #2. I SOOOO agree with you that there are very few positive events in this list. I wonder why the events you listed were not considered 'significant' by the compilers. I would add to your list the introduction of television. between them TV and the computer have revolutionized out lives in a very 'significant' way, have they not?
Re: Do you agree?  [message #17869 is a reply to message #17863] Mon, 24 November 2003 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think 29/11/1985 was the most important day - other wise known as my Birth-day!



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icon7.gif Re: Do you agree?  [message #17875 is a reply to message #17863] Mon, 24 November 2003 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it is quite stupid to include Sept. 11th just because it was the most lethal act of terrorism. If you take all the terrorist attacks in Isreal, I am sure is would pass that one in the number of deaths. What makes those deaths at the World Trade Center any more important than the deaths in any other attack? What about hte deaths in Iraq every day?

Are we rewarding the terrorists by saying they did a good job. The president (and yes I left it lower case on purpose) has used the word terror, or Sept. 11th in every speach he has given in the last two years. It's time to move on to other things for Gods sake!

The polio vaccine, Stonewall, The march on Washington, the death of MLK, the first flight, eradication of smallpox, influenza which killed 21.64 million poeople, the flood of the Huang He river that took the life of 3.7 million ... are at least some of these not more important?

I'm just sayin ....



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icon3.gif Re: Do you agree?  [message #17878 is a reply to message #17875] Mon, 24 November 2003 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another thing I noticed about that list, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it also left out a lot of historical events from Eastern culture. I still keep thinking that the Democratic Revolt in Tienamen Square in CHina would have made that list.



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Re: Do you agree?  [message #17879 is a reply to message #17878] Mon, 24 November 2003 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kind of like the bible.  [message #17880 is a reply to message #17879] Mon, 24 November 2003 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I suppose it's politically correct  [message #17882 is a reply to message #17863] Mon, 24 November 2003 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To include 9/11 because many of the victims' families are still living and grieving, but I wouldn't consider it to be in the same class as many other events that had greater impact.

How about the heart transplant or the artificial heart? This saved more lives than were taken in 9/11. I'll agree with television and the personal computer as well. Though they do mention the "outbreak of the Russian revolution" how about the fact that it succeeded, created the soviet Union, and resulted in the cold war and arms race. The threat of nuclear war had more of an impact on our daily lives than did 9/11. What about the Vietnam War? Or even AIDS? The discovery of penicillin?

There were many more significant events, both positive and negative, that had greater impact upon the world than 9/11 over the last hundred years.

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Re: Do you agree?  [message #17889 is a reply to message #17875] Tue, 25 November 2003 00:25 Go to previous message
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I whole-heartedly agree with you.
That is a point I've been trying to make for a while.



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