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What does one do?  [message #19422] Fri, 16 January 2004 11:02 Go to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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If one is made privy through an email of an impending conspiricy to defraud.

Most of the principals that are involved are named in the email, as is the general area where it is perported to happen.

Does the recipient of said email become an accessory to the crime by saying nothing?

Should it be reported to the proper authorities?



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon13.gif What fraud?  [message #19426 is a reply to message #19422] Fri, 16 January 2004 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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I exerpt for all comers the extact, and "relevant" text of my e-mail to which you are referring:

"[he] is critically ill - the extent of which is yet to be determined - and I was attempting to get him to agree to diagnosis and treatment if necessary through medical facilities that I would arrange on his behalf in Windsor, Ontario (right across the way from where he lives in Michigan), and [he] being himself was proving to be difficult over the issue. Unfortunately he has no health insurance, and has been terrified to go to local medical facilities; nor has he been eating properly, with future prospects altogether dim. I can potentially get him taken care of under our health insurance here in Ontario through associates in Windsor, but he of course needs to cooperate. Whether he will remains to be seen."

You know nothing of this Marc, and once again you attempting to rabble-rouse. Something you do all too well, and with far too much frequency to my taste. Your threatening e-Mail to me in response has achieved nothing. I ignored it, and would have continued to do so, without further comment; but, you apparently don't want to let me.

Go ahead report it to whichever authorities you feel are necessary.

Facilites exist in Canada, where regardless of the circumstances "all comers" are treated without question; and without due regard to their being "legal residents", whether they have Health Insurance, or their financial wherewithall. Unlike America, Canada does not allow people to die steps from it's hospitals; not through design at an rate - error, and misadvertance, it has occasionally happened, yes; but not by design.

I won't reveal here the name of these facilites, as I do not want them to be flooded with cross-border "walk-ins". They have enough on their plate handling our own citizens, who may be just as reluctant as he is to seek treatment.

Your continuing to "flog" this issue, is only making it more difficult for his "friends" to convince him to get the examination, and diagnosis he needs.

You got your apology such as it was, and to the extent that I'm willing to tender one, in my "Something to think about ... " thread here some days ago, as did all who may have been affected by my lapse in judgement when printing your name, and others in my "URGENT!!!" appeal. Now let it rest, or I will reprint for all to see, the full text of my e-mail to you; and reveal for once and all time just what I really do think of you, and your behaviour here.



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
I will not debate this with you Deceiver  [message #19427 is a reply to message #19426] Fri, 16 January 2004 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
As far as what you think.. this is the official word...  [message #19428 is a reply to message #19427] Fri, 16 January 2004 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Pay particular attention to the last line.

Am I eligible for Ontario Health Insurance ?
You must have Ontario health insurance to use Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care funded health care services. You are eligible for the Ontario Health Insurance Plan (OHIP) if you are included under one of the following categories :

you are a Canadian citizen, permanent resident or landed immigrant, convention refugee, or are registered as an Indian under the Indian Act
you have submitted an Application for Permanent Residence or an Application for Landing and have been confirmed by Citizenship and Immigration Canada as having satisfied the medical requirements for landing
you are a foreign worker who holds a valid work permit or employment authorization which names a Canadian employer situated in Ontario and your prospective occupation and is valid for at least six months
you are a foreign clergy member who will be providing services to a religious congregation in Ontario for at least six months
you hold a Temporary Resident Permit or Minister's Permit with a case type 80 (for adoption only), 86, 97, 88 or 89
you are the spouse, same sex partner, or dependent child (under 19 years of age) of a foreign clergy member or eligible foreign worker who is to be employed in Ontario for a period of at least three consecutive years
you hold a work permit or employment authorization under the Live-In Caregivers in Canada Programme or the Foreign Domestic movement
you have been issued a work permit or employment authorization under the Caribbean Commonwealth and Mexican Season Agricultural Workers Program administered by the federal department of Citizenship and Immigration

and you make your permanent and principal home in Ontario
and you are in Ontario for at least 153 days of the first 183 days after applying for coverage
and you are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period

Tourists, transients or visitors are not eligible for OHIP coverage.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
re: What fraud?  [message #19429 is a reply to message #19426] Fri, 16 January 2004 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xcboi02 is currently offline  xcboi02

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I'm not saying that the two posters in this thread have said things harshly, but I have noticed there have been some animosity, at least between the two of you. This can apply to everyone though. All I'm saying is can we be civil in the group. If we have a problem with a specific person, talk to the person in private, try to work things out civily(neutrally.)If you guys can't come up with a solution, get over it, and realize you can't do anything about it, don't continue to push each other's buttons. Being here only a couple days, I can see how disagreements like these which only involve a couple people can hurt the atmosphere of a great group like this. Like I said, if you have a problem with a specific person, please, take it private. if you're emotions are running high, wait to post, let your emotions pass. You'll most likely have a higher chance at resolving it that way. If taking it private doesn't resolve the issue, it still doesn't mean that you should post on the board. Just let it go, realize that you two have differences in opinion, and leave it at that. Everyone has different opinions, and this board isn't here to try to promote one person's opinion. With that, I'm merely stating an opinion, and a suggestion. You don't have to follow this, but it's, to me, more of a distraction, and a deterrant for me to actually look at the board if these "squabbles" as I call it, continue to be posted. If i hurt anyone's feelings. I'm deeply sorry. I didn't mean to at all. I still think disagreements are perfectly fine with me, but when it goes to a more personal level, I'm not so sure.
*HUGS*:-(
Al
re: What fraud?  [message #19430 is a reply to message #19429] Fri, 16 January 2004 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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My question is specific. All I wanted was the advice asked for.

A secondary party chose to incert his opinion and justification to the queery I made.

I meerly went to the government documents and set the record straight.

There is no dispute as far as I can see.

I am meerly trying to not be named in litigation due to another persons neglecy by making their plans known to me.

The law states that forknowledge of a crime levies culpability on all parties privy to said knowledge wether active in the perpertration of the act or not.

I was only asking for advice as to what to do.Very Happy



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
re: What fraud?  [message #19432 is a reply to message #19430] Fri, 16 January 2004 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xcboi02 is currently offline  xcboi02

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That's fine, but it's the replies that i'm talking about, not the original post. Otherwise my reply would have been there. To answer your original question, I don't know enough about law to answer it. I would think not, given the fact that you didn't actively participate, nor didn't know that it was happening. but if you knew something was happening and didn't try to stop it, then maybe. depends on the situation. Maybe you can talk to a friend who knows more 'bout law.
G'luck
Al
icon7.gif Re: What does one do?  [message #19436 is a reply to message #19422] Sat, 17 January 2004 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

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You cannot be prosecuted for that. So PLEASE just let it go already.



"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
Re: What does one do?  [message #19444 is a reply to message #19436] Sat, 17 January 2004 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Well, according to my lawyer, I could. Also, according to the agencies I have been in contact with.

So I have opted to take their advice.

Registered letters to the proper agencies and or authorities.

It is better to be safe than sorry, don't you think?



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon9.gif Re: What does one do?  [message #19445 is a reply to message #19444] Sat, 17 January 2004 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kevin is currently offline  kevin

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You have a strang agenda putting your nose in the business of others in this way.

Hopefully you will try reason again instead of this viceral (yea I used it again) discourse. If your going to try and hurt me why try to hide behind a cloak of morality.

Just come out and be mean for cryin out loud.

It makes me sad to see you in this way.

I will now cease any discussion with you about this.

And a plea to all others:

Please do not respond to my post here, do not allow another argument to start. If Marc wants to attack me or anyone else, let him. Please do not stick up for me as it will only cause more argument.


Thank you,

Kevin



"Be excellent to each other, and, party on dudes"!
Re: What does one do?  [message #19446 is a reply to message #19445] Sat, 17 January 2004 04:18 Go to previous message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Actually, this "business" was foisted on me. It was a part of an email that could have been no more than two words in length.

But!!!! The origionator of this most pleasant email saw fit to include this bit of information. In his doing so, he made one more of his legendary "errors in judgement".

I am not willing to allow myself to be drawn into his tawdry dramas.

I did what I had to do to indemnify myself from his lapse in judgement.

Dont flatter yourself into thinking this is something against you. It is for me and my protection.

That is all.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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