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THIS is really, really scary:
http://www.gaywire.net/newswire/index.cgi?Func=show&File=20020220-181635+tx
Criminal life-style indeed... Death to the bigots, I say!
No, come to think of it, not death. Give them kisses instead! Lots and lots of kisses! 
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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AdamAnt
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Registered: January 1970
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It really makes you wonder how suck ignorant narrow minded people can get so high up the ladder in the judicial system, it disgusts me =(.
I dont know what it is like in the USA for the Gay community, but In sydney where I live there is a lot of tolerance. I think the native aborignes have more hatred against them.
I suppose we are lucky in sydney, we Have The "Gay And Lesbian Mardi Gras" every year in the centre of town and EVERYBODY goes in. Me and all my friends have been going since I was 13. Actually come too think of it, every person I know go too the mardi gras too party with gay community.
I have also seen Bigots being bashed by gays..hahaha.....I was in a cafe next door to a gay bar, and there were 2 bigots in a car parked ouside yelling abuse at them.
Next thing I see is around 15 HUGE muscley gay guys come out of the pub and rip them out of the car window and beat the shit out of the bigots.....
I suppose violence isn't the way too handle it, but I have never heard somebody say "Sorry" so many times. The bigots were pleading too be let go.
anyway, that is probably off the topic a bit, but I just find it ironic how the situation had been turned around on the bigots.
Cheers
Adam Ant
ICQ - 150725506
email - adamantbi@yahoo.com
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tim
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
Registered: February 2002
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That article has now hit my email list, and is about to hit several worldwide gay email lists of which I am a member. Let's just pass this on to all the people we know and ask tghe to do the same. This guy need to feel some serious political wrath. Not violence, loss of income is far, far better.
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Christ, one may only wonder if he's given his 'own special touch' to the punishment of any gay person he's had the pleasure of sentencing....
Brrr, people like him really, really scares me. Why is it so easy to hate those that are different? 
Adam:
Cool to hear about your town's gay community. I wish I lived someplace where things like that happened...
Let us hear if things worked out with that guy you got in trouble with, okay? (And please make sure it DOES work out!)
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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Why hasn't that judge at least been forced to resign already? He has a boss that can do that, right?
It must be illegal, those things he said. Homosexuality is not a crime against anything in the US, and the bible is not law either. Yet he still says things like, "a violation of the laws of nature and of natures God upon which this nation and our laws are predicated". (And many Americans are so scared of muslim fundamentalists... How come? They've got people just as bad right amongst themselves!)
In this country where I live, he'd been dead meat by now, fired from his job or at least suspended without pay, served a subpoena for harassment of a minority even most likely. ...But then again, we don't have a powerful Christian right wing either so a person like him could never have reached such a position.
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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richard lyon
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Location: San Francisco
Registered: February 2002
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He is an elected official. The State Supreme Court is independent from the executive branch. Unfortunately his statements are not inconsistent with those of Warren Berger in Bowers v. Hardwick which is still the prevailing precedent for the US Supreme court. He can't simply be fired. He got elected by engaging in this type of grand standing.
The state and people of Alabama have a notorious track record for human rights.
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Yuck, I can't believe people in a (at least on paper) democracy would further their own agenda like this by oppressing minorities and spreading pure hate. That's just disgusting!
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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...is similar in many ways to extreme Muslim fundamentalism.
Unfortunately, in the US (Lenny, what country are you in, by the way?) an extremely small number of these reactionary "Christians" have disproportionate political clout. They are particularly American, sad to say.
Most American religious people aren't extremely politically active, and maintain silence over this issue, even when they disagree. It IS scary. And sad.
Some good books about it, tho. "God's Bullies" about some of the leaders of Christian fundamentalism (Falwell, Robertson, etc.), "Saving the Bible From Fundamentalism" by Anglican Bishop John Spong (who has received death threats from his critics), many others...ask me if interested!
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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tim
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
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Is that on other messagebaords the guy is almost praised and allowed to have his views. Peole doubt that the story is true. (It is). People say "the remarks were taken out of context" and "were exaggerated". But they were MADE nonethless. And people say "it doesn't matter", which it does.
And these messageboards are gay messagebaords populated by our own friends, who surely should be setting an exmaple about equal rights and human rights
That bewilders me.
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richard lyon
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Toe is in the water |
Location: San Francisco
Registered: February 2002
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Tim, I very much share your feeling. I think that the word is denial. Many Jews in Germany said similar things when the Nazis first came to power. This man is not a fluke. There are plenty more like him.
Richard
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Anybody remember the old comedy-pianist Tom Lehrer?
In his song about Werner Von Braun, he sang:
"Once ze rockets are up, who cares where zey come down...
Zhat's not my department, says Werner Von Braun..."
Denial is a mighty and terrible thing...
Now thinking about those awful...and awfully good songs, who can remember others from his poisen pen?
"All the world seems in tune,
On a spring afternoon,
When we're poisening pigeons in the park..."
Hehehe
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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tim
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
Registered: February 2002
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they came for the Jew and I said nothing...
they came for the Catholic I said nothing...
they came for the Lesbian I said nothing...
they came for the blacks, I said nothing...
they came for the gay man, I said nothing...
Today they came for me!!!!!!!!
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richard lyon
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Toe is in the water |
Location: San Francisco
Registered: February 2002
Messages: 55
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My favorites were the Vatican Rag and the Ode To Alma Mahler
Richard
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mihangel
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Likes it here |
Location: UK
Registered: July 2002
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Trouble is, they're all good.
The druggist round the corner, he was swell.
He killed his mother-in-law and ground her up real well,
And sprinkled just a bit
Over each banana split ...
Keep those reefers hidden where you're sure that they will not be found,
And be careful not to smoke them when the scoutmaster's around,
Or he he only will insist that they be shared.
Be prepared!
(Nicolai Ivanovitch Lobaschevsky)
Index I got from old Vladivostok telephone directory.
And these are the elements of which they've heard at Harvard,
And if there're any others then they haven't been discarvard.
One could go on and on (and totally irrelevant to this thread. It's all your fault, David)
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cossie
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Location: Exiled in North East Engl...
Registered: July 2003
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Tom Lehrer was my childhood inspiration. I still have the odd hankering to dance to the Masochism Tango, but as an enthusiastic Scout it was his advice on being prepared which I particularly took to heart. Damned good advice it was, too!
Mihangel has already quoted his wise words on keeping one's grass to oneself. I particularly approved of the exhortation:
"Don't solicit for your sister - that's not nice
Unless you get a good percentage of the price ... "
Alas, my parents selfishly declined to provide me with a sister, and none of my friends' sisters were enthusiastic about developing the idea. Just the first of my many entrepreneurial failures!
OK, I accept it's irrelevant to the thread, but it's fun - do you remember Tom's British near-contemporary Paddy Roberts? I though his 'Ballad of Bethnal Green' was BRILLIANT - even now, the recollection brins on fits of giggles -
I'll tell a tale of a jealous male
And a maid of sweet sixteen:
She was blonde and dumb and she lived with her mum
On the fringe of Bethnal Green.
She worked all week for a rich old Greek -
Her Dad was on the dole,
And her one delight was a Friday night
When she had a bit of rock 'n' roll .....
Ah, such sweet romance!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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Steve
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Location: London, England
Registered: November 2006
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Yes, they made good songs like these in the good old days. They don't make 'em like that any more. Fings ain't wot they used to be.
They've changed our local pally into a bowling alley
And Fings ain't wot they used to be.
There's teds in drainpipe trahsis and debs in coffee-hahsis
Now fings ain't wot they used to be.
It used to be fun, Dad and old Mum, paddlin' down Soufend.
But now that ain't done, never mind chum -
Paris is where we'll spend our outin's.
My memory is not what it used to be [grin]. Perhaps someone can complete this Lionel Bart gem for me (otherwise I shall go madder than I already am).
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tim
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
Registered: February 2002
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Coz Tom Lehrer is all very well, but Moore needs to be removed from office.
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Ok, let me get this straight.
First I get slapped out of TGO on issues of sexuality.
Then I get yelled at again for trying to discuss politics there.
Now I'm getting slapped on the hand for trying to have a bit of a laugh.
Sorry, I guess I'm not getting anything right anywhere.
Maybe I need a break from Message Boards for awhile.
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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Steve
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Location: London, England
Registered: November 2006
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>>Sorry, I guess I'm not getting anything right anywhere.<<
Nonsense. I think Tim was over-reacting. We did what we were asked to do about that terrible judge (at least I did). Maybe, David, you should have started a new thread, but it's not such a terrible sin in my book that you didn't.
>>Maybe I need a break from Message Boards for awhile.<<
Now that is a different matter. I have decided to restrict myself for the time being to one MB - this one.
BTW, in answer to a previous question of yours: TL did make more than one album: I have two on tape.
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tim
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
Registered: February 2002
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Hackles down, guy. I just feel single minded about Chief fucking Justice fucking Moore.
No over reaction, just a reaction. Not slapping anyone, I just don't want to dilute anything aroind this total bigot.
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