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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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BEGINS
Hi
I discovered your site (iomfats.org) through glass.onion - I wanted to read
your stories, but got discouraged because they're all published as html. I
cannot change the font size as I wish, nor the background colour nor the
foreground colour. As you have posted it, it must be very legible for teens
and twenty-year-olds, but not to me, sorry. How very inconsiderate of you.
Too bad.
ENDS
I was very polite in my reply. I explained that it is a web site. Web sites use HTML. This is because they are web pages.
The oddest thing is that the site he refers to is a web site. With HTML. And web pages. ??
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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the font size can be altered in the browser settings and also in the accessability settings in the windows accessories package on the start menu.
Color however is a different matter.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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saben
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I believe for such changes to be possible one must use default settings in the browser, and not set the colour or font size through CSS, etc. The email is a little poor in explaining the situation, but I think I understand what they mean. All websites are in HTML, true, but perhaps an alternate .doc version would suit some users better (I'm actually not sure myself how much more space and bandwidth that would consume). Also, using more default settings makes the website more accessable through choices changed in Internet Explorer. With the recent advent of people accessing websites through mobile phones and PDAs a modern day internet coding slogan has become, "Less is more", rather than people focusing so much on having massively beautiful intensive websites. I personally like the website scheme and colour choices, as well as thinking it is simple enough for most users, I'm just trying to clarify, hopefully what this person wants, though.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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timmy
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well, this website uses css totally. And it recognises incompetent browsers and turns the formatting off 
What it can't recognise, regrettably, is visitors who are themselves low in functionality
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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... but only in so far as the capability does exist for the end-user to have the desired control over the web-content he views.
Unfortunately for the greater majority of web-sufers that control is denied to them, or is limited to the barest minimum of options available to them, through their choice of Operating System, and Web-browser. It is in this areaa tha both Marc and Saben are correct in their statements. These options do reside, to one degree or another, in the Windows OS, and more specifically under Windows'2000, and it's errant child Windows'XP.
Users of Internet Explorer, since version 5.0 Service Pack 1 have had the ability to fine tune a few of those OS choices, and it will not be until the release of the next version of the Windows OS, slated now for sometime late 2006 at best, or early 2007 at worst, that radical changes are anticipated in what will then be the successor to Internet Explorer. All development of the now ubiquitos web-standard Internet Explorer, with the release of Service Pack 1 to version 6.0 (mid-term 2003), and Microsoft's settlement of the AntiTrust Lawsuit with AOL (October 2003) has ceased.
Whilst no great change is anticipated before 2006, Service Pack 2 to Windows'XP (expected release date probably November, 2004) and Service pack 5 to Windows'2000 (likely release date June 2004) will see revisions made to code underlying both the OS's themselves, and to Internet Explorer version 6.0 only if installed at the time the Service Pack is applied, whereby pop-up Windows control, tab-browsing, and a couple of other long desired features, thus far available only with a host of alternative Browsers. Alas discreet FONT-Control, appearance and other sizing capabilities are not to be included.
These features, namely the FONT-Control, text and background appearance and sizing, image and text-only capabilities, have all been declared requirements for World-wide Web Consortium Compliance, and for this reason have been widely available to savy users of any Browser other than Internet Explorer, in some instances for several years.
The above mentioned capabilites, including Tab-browsing, Pop-up Windows Controls, Image and Advertising Blocking and seamless integrated Encryption/Decryption are all currently available, to one degree or antother, to end-users of the Windows OS's under the "Brand-names" Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird, Thunderbird, K-Melon and Opera, just to name a few. Those who enjoy the superiority of their Apple Macintoshes, iMac's, PowerBooks, G4's and others operating under OS X will find similar capabilites built into either Apple's own Safari Browser, or Camino. Similar alternatives to users of UNIX/Linux will find that Epiphany, Le Galeon, Skipstone, Konqueror, amongst others, will service their needs in lieu of Internet Explorer until the next release of the Windows OS.
A "Google" search on any of the Brand-names mentioned will bring up the relevant home-pages for each, all offering "free" downloads of their most recent versions, each detailing their strengths and weaknesses. All are "OpenSource", and developed and funded, in the main by individuals, much like you and I, and through Corporations other than Microsoft, with all "Licenses" set and administered by the Free Software Foundation.
Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada
"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Actually no, he does not.
We have a W3C compliant XHTML site and a W3C compliant CSS implementation on all pages except this forum, which, since it allows HMTL input by users, is impossible to make W3C compliant.
I control how my site looks. Me. Along with M EH who designed it and Megaman who controls complex behind the scenes implementation. I control it in the same way that any publisher controls the way their book or newspaper looks.
It is a brand, and has brand image.
[Updated on: Sat, 28 February 2004 08:20]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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... only addressing his concerns that he doesn't appear to have the option to resize, or select alternative FONTS, change the colours or backgrounds etc., and your response to those concerns; whereas my point is that he does; has had for probably 3-years or more; even with this Forum; but not if he's using Internet Explorer. Period.
You are however correct in assuming that HE, HIMSELF, SHOULD BE AWARE of how to undertake these changes to suit his own tastes, should he choose to alter the manner in which content is viewed on his screen. This is not your responsibility, and never has it been the responsibility of the content developer, excepting where specific "plugins" or sizing are necessary for the correct rendering of content, for example 3-D Viewers and the environments necessary for end-user participation in those environments; situations such as these, and there are others too, require that the content developer, either link to the needed software directly on his website, or alternatively to another source; with all attendant cautions being appropriately made. None of these situations would currently apply anywhere on your web-site, including this Forum.
Your responsibility to the end-user, display-wise, ends once you have guaranteed, and assured yourself, that regardless of which screen resolution, operating system, or Web-browser is chosen by your prospective visitor, all will view your content in an appropriate, and near as identical, manner as is practicable. Whether you use CSS's, or not, is immaterial, as is whether you use XHTML, DHTML or HTML, and whether you employ the devices of ActiveX Scripting, JavaScripting, or whatever.
And yes, you do have the right to assert your authorship of your own web-site, and its' content, and affirm your desire to have it viewed in whatever manner you choose; but, on the otherhand, it's now also the right of the end-user to be able to decide whether he likes that view, or not, and to be able to adjust Colours, Text-size and Font, whether Images, or not, and any Advertizing you have allowed to support your site, are displayed, or not.
It is in this latter area that the end-user's responsibility begins, and yours has ended. It is in this area too, that the responsibility of the Web-browser developer now lies with regard to W3C Compliance, and the capabilites of his Browser to deliver the options to the end-user to be able to render content as the user desires.
All further development on Internet Explorer ceased six-months ago, not because Microsoft now dominates the Web-browser market, but because their product is not now W3C Compliant, never has been, and never will be. Period. They know this, the World knows this, and Microsoft, just like everyone else must toe the line, and in future deliver product that will adhere to the same standards, and benchmarks, that everyone else must adhere to, when considering applications designed to render web-content. In so far as it's currently possible, changes are being implemented, and incorporated by Microsoft, to the underlying code of the Windows Operating System (as stipulated in my earlier comments), and as a consequence its' integrated components like Internet Explorer; but these forthcoming changes WILL ONLY WORK with Windows'2000, Windows'XP or Windows'2003, and not on any earlier releases, regardless of the version of Internet Explorer installed, and are only a subset of changes that Microsoft must eventually make with the release of it's next OS, this notwithstanding the name of whatever Web-browser they make available at that time.
Lastly, to the end-user, if all else fails; and you have chosen to continue to use Internet Explorer, inorder to view Timmy's content as you choose, simply download and save that content as simple text-files, and open them in any word-processor, and change it to our heart's content.
Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada
"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
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timmy
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;-D
Sir, you mistake me for someone who cares about this alleged issue.
It's a computer program.
::-)
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I have had a comment about the website 
The author of the e-Mail does have a valid point ... 
I wasn't questioning your web-sites compliance ... 
