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Charlie Smith
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Registered: January 1970
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Hi guys, thought I would ask you whay your thoughts were on the recent story about Prince Harry and his under age drinking, NOT his drugs thing totally against that, but drinking at 17, is it that bad? That's what beeing a teen is all about isn't it? I've just turned 17 my self, still 12 months under the legal age for drinking. Being a parent what's your opinion Tim? I'm off clubbing now, hehe. Check back with you later.
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Is that when you drink whatever before the expiration date? Before it's bottled?
Hehe, as you can guess, I do not think there is such a thing as underage drinking. Since the drinking age is an arbitrary date set by the local government, then it is meaningless.
Is it wrong for a father to give his son a beer while watching a football game on TV? A glass of wine at dinner? A glass of the sparkles on New Year's?
But there is alchohol abuse. I think that through proper parenting the risks of abuse can be taught. Once the child has reached their teens, you really have to hope that they listened because they will have to make their own choices.
Harry is a special case. Very, very few children grow up under the same circumstances as he is. I blame him for embarassing himself in public, but really what harm was done other than that? And I too will ignore the drugs in this post as that is a totally different matter.
Hugs, Charlie
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Location: UK, West of London in Ber...
Registered: February 2002
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Rasing my son, we introduced him to alcohol very early on. he has always shared wine AND spirits with us, thoughin lower quantities. Not "watered wine" like the French are alleged to do, but real stuff.
He likes dirnking, hates smoking. Detests drugs of other types but has not tried them And I trust him when he says not.
"Under age" simply means below the legal age where you live. I would prefer any young perosn to drink in safety. By which I mean in a safe environment, not in safe quantities. Getting plastered and being violently ill is a necessity at times.
So mine drinks at school, where it is not allowed, and I support him UNLESS he gets caught!
I would prefer that he got drunk on BEER coz you tend to drown before you poison yourself, but he prefers vodka and tequila slammers. He is now 17. He was first caught drinking at school when he was 14.
I am told I am an unusual father. BUT I see it as important to allow freedoms and guide behaviours, not to remove freedoms and dictate behaviours.
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I too was introduced to alcohol at an early age, all kinds. Beer, wine, spirits. I was curious about what my parents were drinking at dinner, and wanted to try it myself.
I found I didn't like it, and has never touched the stuff since. Beer is simply stale and rancid in taste, simply awful stuff. Wine is sour in taste and immediately gives me a sour stomach. Spirits on the whole is too bitter for me, tastes too much of alcohol, which is a taste I do not enjoy.
I have changed from simply disliking alcohol, to detesting it. I hate not only the taste, but also the effects it has on people. I hate the way it changes their personality, how it twists them, I don't know them anymore. It supposedly brings pleasure, I cannot say since I never tried to get myself drunk, but it is my sincere belief it is a FAKE pleasure.
I really don't see the point of drawing a line between legal drugs, such as alcohol, and illegal drugs such as heroin. It's ALL the same to me. I hate them all, because in my eyes they ruin people while they are under the influence of it, and they also ruin people who use it for a prolonged period of time.
That people intentionally want to fuck with their brains by ingesting alcohol and get intoxicated, it makes me sick. It's not natural, it's not healthy, and it's plain not RIGHT. It's all FAKE.
What's wrong with a nice cup of tea, DAMMIT? 
-Lenny
"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."
-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
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trevor
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Registered: November 2002
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I see we have many views here - that's great!
I guess I'd ask myself WHY I wanted to drink. Personally, I have an odd perspective since I've never been drunk and am an extremely light drinker, in part due to my medications, although the meds are recent and I'm an old fart. Also, my parents are both alcholics, although only recently diagnosed.
Heavy drinkers use alchohol as a drug to escape reality. The problem is when real problems are avoided too long and then the escapism itself becomes yet another problem.
When I drink it's usually to help relax if I'm wound up but also I like the taste of the few drinks I do enjoy. E.g. at the end of the day, helps to relax and/or sleep.
Part of me feels like younger people *shouldn't* have too many worries to "wind them up" in the first place - job, commute, kids, money, etc. Yes, I know there are plenty of other pressures and problems for teens, though.
Another issue is knowing when to stop and knowing why you're drinking - in theory "adults" know their limits and are wise in these issues - yeah, right - I wish.
I guess if it's a safe environment (someone to watch out for you, no driving, no guzzling the hard stuff) everyone wants to experiement at some point and that's probably okay.
But if you can't have fun without drugs (alchohol is a drug, IMHO) or drink because all your friends are, that's "wrong."
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Hey Charlie!! great to see you hanging about the place!!!
I think responsibility is more important than the actual age. Are you drinking and then planning to drive?? That is just plain stupid, so use a designated driver system. Are you getting plastered and not remembering what happened at the party? Again, pretty dumb, in my book. Is the drinking affecting your sports activities, or causing you to miss school or work? Again, bad news.
But all of that can be self-monitering...you have to be the judge of how mucg is too much. A good friend of mine, my age, and also a shrink, decided recently that he was beginning to abuse drink after many years of its' never being a problem, and he's now stopping. That's good self-discipline!
Congrats on yer recent birthday, dude...Blushing that I didn't get that card sent on time, but the other PREZZIES sound really cool!!!! Man and I are shopping for something appropriate when I'm there next month...YAY!!
Hugs and love ya!!
"Always forgive your enemies...nothing annoys them quite so much." Oscar Wilde
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you are supposed to be writing!! And moving too.
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Charlie Smith
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Registered: January 1970
Messages: 46
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Thanks for all the comments guys, myself I drink very little cos of my sports as you rightly said David. I also think it must be a hell of a life living in a golfish bowl like Harry has to do. Thanks for that David I look foreword to that
I was also brought up to respect alcohol by my parents as they are now doing with my younger brother. As for drinking and driving that is just plain stupid, in my opinion if you drink you shouldn't drive and if you drive you shouldn't drink.
Last night was an all nighter not been home long and I still didn't drink much, hehe. So i'm off to bed now for a few hours.
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mihangel
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Location: UK
Registered: July 2002
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Two sides to it, in my opinion, both pointing the same way.
One is as a parent, trying to teach youngsters moderation and responsibity. Like Tim, I let mine drink, first at home in a safe environment, then when out partying.
The other is as a youngster, learning moderation and responsibility. I got plastered once, as a teenager. Never again! But a very useful experience. If, like Lenny, you find you don't like alcohol, fine. Saves a lot of money!
It seems to have worked with my kids. My youngest got plastered the other month (aged 18, so it was legal, as if it matters) for the first time and, he swears, the last. I think he means it, too. No problem for me. As in my case, good experience.
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Charlie Smith
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Registered: January 1970
Messages: 46
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Registered: March 2012
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i dont see the problem with under age drinking! as long as people are smart while doing like not driving while drunk. in louisianna teens can drink as long as it id ok with the partents. i think teens should be able to drink if it is ok with the parents!!!
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Registered: March 2012
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moving and writting??? explain. i am on here trying to find people's opinions about underage drinking, what do you think?
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