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I have always prided myself on being even handed  [message #21292] Fri, 25 June 2004 14:13 Go to next message
timmy

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I can tell you that I am desperately tempted right now to use each of those hands to deliver a hard and even slap!

Running a messagebaord is not easy. I never pretended it was easy. But I tend to put myself in a special position that I allow attacks on me that I would not allow on other people.

So, I shall take a cold, hard look at myself in the mirror. This is easy because I am having my bathroom refurbished at present, and I am over goal on mirrors.

OK

What did I see?

In truth nothing special.

A fat bloke going grey, who needs to lose weight. Average height.

Ah, but wait, I am meant to look inside myself.

OK

I see someone who tries very hard to provide a decent environment for people to express themselves and who tries to stop their worst excesses of behaviour without violence, or rudeness.

And I see someone who does not always succeed.

So, "Gay Deceiver" (damn that is an odd name - deceiving whom and about what?), nice blast, nice demolition job. Factually incorrect, and that is not unusual really, now is it? I particularly loved all your persoanl accusations. It's good to get this out into the open isn't it?

Or is it?

You see I don't feel any better or worse for the look in the mirror. And I doubt you feel any better for your unhelpful diatribe. It added nothing to the topic and took away much.

So, with or without your permission, I intend to go on as I have for a long time. trying very hard to continue to create something decent, and not always managing it.

The temptation to slap? Well, you know, that started way back when you refused to take "no" for an answer when we first met online.

[Updated on: Fri, 25 June 2004 14:16]




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icon7.gif Even-handed, not heavy-handed...  [message #21307 is a reply to message #21292] Fri, 25 June 2004 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lenny is currently offline  lenny

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You know, you may be going gray and all that which you saw in your mirror timmy, I on my part see a wonderfully decent and friendly man that gives the best hugs ever. Smile

I am glad you somehow find the patience to forgive us our transgressions, because this place is so important for many here.

So that said, here's a {{{hug}}} for you for being a kind soul that cares about the rest of us. Smile



"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."

-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
Now I have moist eyes  [message #21309 is a reply to message #21307] Fri, 25 June 2004 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Thank you, Lenny. You aren't so bad at hugging yourself!

I mean you are good at hugging others!



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icon14.gif Re: Even-handed, not heavy-handed...  [message #21310 is a reply to message #21307] Fri, 25 June 2004 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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Lenny, I have to, by and large, agree with the sentiment you have so admirably expressed.

Timmy truly does deserve our affection, and our support; not least for his patience and the forgiveness he extends to all who come to play here in his sandbox.

I unlike Timmy have gone completely grey, am becoming perhaps a tad overweight, but nothing either rigorous exercise, Miss Clairol and a tunmmy tuck or two wouldn't cure.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
Timmy, I have been flitting around the question ...  [message #21316 is a reply to message #21292] Fri, 25 June 2004 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... of whether to reply; or if I should, then just how to say what I'm feeling; and just what it may have been that I had attempted to express in another thread here.

Before all else, I must apologize; especially as allowing I have hurt you, and you have perceived those statements as a vindictive and wilful attack upon you personally.

Neither was my intent, either by design or desire.

I originally *posted* a considered and thoughtful reply to what I had always assumed to be a serious request for advise. I neither cared, nor needed you to acknowledge that reply; but, when I saw the thread degrade into quagmire of acrimony and excess, I felt beholden to clarify and assert my feeling that the behaviour you were describing for us was, from my perspective, behaviour of criminal intent. My perceptions, and those of others who may have shared the same view, are subjective just like yours and others are on a myriad number of topics discussed here each and everyday.

In attempting to restate my position, I ill advisedly chose to use as an example something of your own personal behaviour that, to my mind, could well be seen as I described it. In doing so, I, however it may have NOT BEEN intended that way, have unfortunately caused you considerable anguish. For this alone you deserve to hear my apology.

I had never before tasked you upon that issue, nor am I ever likely to in future, as frankly, that behaviour had long since ceased, and you had moved on, and there appeared to be no attendant consequences of your actions regarding the other party.

The sentiments Lenny expressed, before me, are as I have stated in the reply to him, largely held by myself, and I'm sure the majority of those of us here. You do do good works; you are a man of infinite compassion, and forgiveness; you do exercise great charity to all who visit A Place of Safety; but, you are just one man, and a man who, like all of us here, has his failings and shortcomings; and too can become afflicted with the same degree of tunnel vision that overcomes us all at some place or time.

If at times I have appeared to you to be provocative, or forceful, in my rhetoric, it may very well be, that I too have succumbed to the heat of the moment, and deservedly may need to be brought up sharply; but, in according you that right with myself and with all others, you should be prepared for some degree of reciprocity. This, however ill managed is all I was attempting to do.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
icon6.gif You're so very welcome! (And, thanks! *blush*)  [message #21317 is a reply to message #21309] Fri, 25 June 2004 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"But he that hath the steerage of my course,
direct my sail."

-William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Act One, Scene IV
Re: Timmy, I have been flitting around the question ...  [message #21318 is a reply to message #21316] Fri, 25 June 2004 19:49 Go to previous message
timmy

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I think I will simply use good manners and judgement and accept your apology with thanks. Elaborating further is probabaly unhelpful to all here, I think you will agreee?



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