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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I have also been sent some Transgender "stuff" which I will be turning into a page. There are so many more transgendered people than we realise, and there is a lot we should be doing to make them feel at home. Not special. Just at home.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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but how are they relevant?
Why is a Pride Event in Jerusalem any more significant than any other pride held in any other place?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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when you finish the page i'd like to see it -- though i assume you'd post or mail a notification on the list, right?
it'd be nice to feel at home.
there's livejournal communities and mailing lists for transgenders and "trannyfags" as it's also called (if you are an FTM who is such to be with a male, instead of with a female--or so *i* thought it meant, because--), but it's become a big dramatic, fight-filled mess on what trans REALLY means or trannyfag or queer or FTM for being with girls = not a real "boy" at all and just a masked lesbian, etc etc and i cannot stand reading it and finally asked to be removed from all of it ... thusly rendering me homeless. again.
because while no one's done anything mean or mail-bombed me lately, the fact remains this place IS mostly for gay bio-males, and is geared toward such (and is wonderful for that, please don't get me wrong) so i often feel like i'm just elbowing my way into a boy's club, or trying to, with little to no result.
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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timmy
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not "more relevant" Just relevant.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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nothing wrote:
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> because while no one's done anything mean or mail-bombed me lately, the fact remains this place IS mostly for gay bio-males, and is geared toward such (and is wonderful for that, please don't get me wrong) so i often feel like i'm just elbowing my way into a boy's club, or trying to, with little to no result.
You know, how a place starts out does not mean it is going to remain that way.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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I didn't say "more relevant"
I did however enquire as to the degree of significance aswaged to this pride event as opposed to others.
I was always under the impression that for the most part the Jewish Community and Israel as a nation was reletivly accepting to same sex relationships.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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you are just one of the guys....
After all, isn't that what you really want?
So just elbow your way in right along with the rest of us.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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you're right. the thing is though, is even if it did remain how it started, i'd never EVER object to that, because i know how much this place has helped lots of people, even those who don't post on the board here.  either way i wasn't trying to insult or complain, i hope it didn't come out that way!
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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hmmm....one wonders how many palestinians "Jerusalem Open House" serves in any given month....
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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the secular part of israeli society is fairly open, as i understand, but there are many ultra-orthodox jews who make our Southern Baptists look like pushovers--profoundly conservative.
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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hey nothing--
I wish you didn't feel like that. it's hard for me as a guy who is happy with his gender to know what it must be like to not feel that way. i think transgender issues are becoming more recognized all the time. I remember when the argument was over whether to include the ''T" in GLBT, and now, this year the Grand Marshal at the Seattle Pride Parade was Marsha Botzer, the founder of the Ingersoll Gender Center.
How can I make this a more inclusive and comfortable place for transgendered people? I know you've pro'ly had this discussion with Timmy already, but i want to know what I can do...as an individual.
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Email and ask.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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I don't think I stated any degree of significance I just posted the pictures. I seem to recall more than one other such event has been publicised here.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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You're doing it. Learning not to be shocked nor surprised when one of the lads reveals that his body is not classically male, and has more curves than most men find usual.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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All I asked is what makes the pictures relevant.
Why are they relevant?
I know there have been like pictures and articles. I have read them all.
But my question still stands.
Why are the pictures "relevant".
No implications, no cryptic sidestepping, no platitudes implied.
Just,,,,, why?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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exactly what timmy said. no one has ever done anything to make me feel uncomfortable, it's hard to explain why i am and have it still make sense. because this place was one thing when i got here, and i was something else (but always *this* just not revealed you could say). i was a girl in a guy's club -- but it was never, EVER said girls didn't belong here or couldn't be here, so even then i never felt UNcomfortable. in fact i seemed to have gotten along with people much better back then.
then i got fairly stupid and inane about things that had nothing to do with what was really going on with me. i was feeling very close with some people, felt like i was falling in love with others, and i knew how silly that was because outside i was XX and inside i am XY and yaaaaaadda yadda yadda, i lashed out, left, came back and here we are, and i am, today. things are different but not because individuals are doing anything they shouldn't be or what have you. things are different because i wasn't honest from the start and am only human and make mistakes, which i guess sometimes is not forgivable.
so i meant no offense by saying things like 'boy's club' or i don't feel i belong here. i don't, at times, and yes that has to do with my gender issues, but it also has to do with this backstory which on my end, was caused by my inability to handle these issues coming to light with me... but it takes two (or more) to mess things up. not just me.
oh, and ps! i was lucky to be born and grow into something that has fewer curves than most of my biological gender. there's still four more that have to disappear; two of them i can manage just fine and make disappear because they barely existed to begin with. the others are more stubborn, especially since giving birth. however with extreme measures they too seem to get smaller every day. i've pictures but i don't want to gross anyone out! 
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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well I guess the are relevant because they are not irrelevant.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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you see..... i ask a civil question and you see fit to play your posturing ever so much the guru of queerdom.... and all I get is bullshit!
have it......
keep it......
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Oh jeez. All I said was that they were relevant. I guess it was a bad word choice. So shoot me :-[ They aren't cats, or birds. They're pics of a yet to be held pride event. Hence "relevant"
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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i could post pictures of my hopefully-not-quite-girl hips and purple underwear butt! would those be relevant?? they kind of would, being that i constantly love to whine about whether or not i pass or could pass or should pass.
sorry -- i was trying to just make a couple people chuckle or shake their heads and laugh and be all, 'omg you crazy!' or something. lighten the mood or lighten my own because i've taken too much of something and i'm sorta scared and thereofre have to keep myself awake because if i stay awake the night i think i'll be ok.
...now THAT part was IRRelevant but you know i got nowhere else to go and a huge cell bill so i can't call anyeone either. uh.
anyway no fighting ok? please? thansk.
my void does not want.
-- 2.13.61.
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