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the senate and the amendment to ban gay marriage  [message #21578] Fri, 16 July 2004 20:10 Go to next message
joesdog is currently offline  joesdog

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so the proposed amendment to ban gay marriage in the united states failed in the senate, as it should have. Sen Kerry, currently seeking nomination as the democratic nominee for president, despite making a great deal of noise about not supporting the amendment, was curiously absent for the vote, effectively recusing himself from the issue. I don't think this speaks particularly well for him and his committment to protecting our rights, but then we don't really expect presidential nominees to 'walk the walk' anyway, do we?

legislation is currently being considered in the House which would make it illegal for courts to force states to allow gay marriage, but such laws can be fought in the courts themselves, which if it passes is where i expect to see such a law.

Meanwhile, Bush gets an enormous credibility boost with his right wing allies, at essentially no cost. it's all a win/win situation for him. I don't believe that he ever thought the amendment was going to pass in the first place.



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Re: the senate and the amendment to ban gay marriage  [message #21585 is a reply to message #21578] Sat, 17 July 2004 05:59 Go to previous message
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Kerry faced the risk of isolating his own right-winged contingent if he had participated in the vote. He probably did the maths and then abstained because he knew it wouldn't pass and all his vote would have done is either push away the marginal right wing support he has or outrage the left-wing voters to the point where many would just not vote (if he voted for it). Personally I think it was a smart move on his part, the nature of elections means that if you are not currently president then you need to try and appeal not only to those that dislike the current one, but also to some of the president's supporters.



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