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new works section  [message #22066] Sat, 28 August 2004 09:58 Go to next message
joesdog is currently offline  joesdog

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May we have an expanded directory of the latest works published? I think that having only the most recent work published is a bit inconvenient, as it makes folks go searching each contributor's section in search of new stuff.

cheers!

aj



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Re: new works section  [message #22068 is a reply to message #22066] Sat, 28 August 2004 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The concept is good, but the implementation of a full directory, author by auithor, is hard. IT requires an underlying database, and we don;t see the return on effort of production.

http://iomfats.org/oddsandends/changelog.php has been there since inception of the current site design



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icon3.gif Re: new works section  [message #22070 is a reply to message #22066] Sat, 28 August 2004 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Hey aj!

If you click on >Change Log< on the home page, will that do what you want?

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Re: new works section  [message #22071 is a reply to message #22070] Sat, 28 August 2004 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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It's really been a simple matter of design.

At the top of the home page we keep "The newest item"

At the foot we kep that last 5 items.

And in the Change Log we keep everything back to before life was even relevant!

A lot of the site is dynamically served. You'll never notice this because it all looks like HTML, but the home page is actually a bit special and doesn't exist at all!

What we don't have is a Content Management System. And they cost a fortune, so we're not going to have one. Megaman has crafted everything to work as well and fats as it posisbly can while allowing it to be maintainable.

But, to give you an idea, when I receive a story or poem I take the following actions:
  1. Create HTML if it was not presented in HTML
  2. Run the HTML through a piece of software to create XHTML (future proofing and W3C standards compliant
  3. Edit to remove the tags at the top all the way doen to and incluidng the BODY tag
  4. Replace the top segment with a "Server Side Include" and some fancy header work
  5. Look at awkward coding to ensure crap browsers like WebTV can read the pages eventhough we make direct provision for them anyway in the site header and navigation
  6. Inspect the XHTML and alter thinsg we just do not want, usually plaved there by M$oft to annoy the world
  7. Replace the footer of the file with a server side include for our page footer
  8. Upload the changed file or files
  9. Add (eg a new author) to the Site Navigation where needed
  10. Add a new entry to "Change Log
  11. Send out the announcement email
Now I know a Content Management System woudl ease some of that. But it would not ease enough to make it worthwhile.

Believe me we looked at the idea when the redesign happened. But it wasn't "effort effective



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Re: new works section  [message #22072 is a reply to message #22071] Sun, 29 August 2004 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
saben is currently offline  saben

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Well, there are many high quality CMSes that are free such as Movable Type, PHPNuke and Greymatter so money isn't really an issue at all. But I agree that for the limited, small updates that you make it wouldn't really be worth having to convert EVERY single update you have done in the past to a CMS format, what you have right now works quite fine, I feel. The Change Log is a little invisible, though, perhaps after the most recent update you could put a line break and a link that jumps you down the page to the 5 most recent changes and the Change Log link. Not everyone scrolls down to the bottom of a webpage, after all. Just a small link could improve user friendly-ness, although I think the site is great as it is. I know I have made comments about the message boards before, but the site itself is one thing I have very few if any complaints about at all, it is great.



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Re: new works section  [message #22077 is a reply to message #22072] Sun, 29 August 2004 13:04 Go to previous message
timmy

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I have made a small change. See if you can spot it;-)



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