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Botched circumcision  [message #22698] Sat, 30 October 2004 19:29 Go to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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On Thursday, 4 November 2004, at 2100 hrs GMT BBC2's Horizon programme will deal with the infamous case of the Reimer twins fron Winnipeg, Manitoba, one of whom, Bruce, had his penis burnt off in a botched circumcision and was brought up as a girl.
Not a programme for the faint-hearted and I'm not sure that I'm going to watch it.



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Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

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Re: Botched circumcision  [message #22699 is a reply to message #22698] Sat, 30 October 2004 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=%22david+reimer%22 gives leads to a lot of stories about this. Regrettably David Reimer took his own life relatively recently.

If you have the nerve for it, there is a vidoe or two on this site about circumcision. http://iomfats.org/resources/restoring/media/circumcision.asf and http://iomfats.org/resources/restoring/media/circvid.ram


links like http://www.intact.ca/index.html and http://www.norm.org/ and http://www.cirp.org/ and http://iomfats.org/resources/health/penis/circumcision/ have merit too

Just remember that circumcision was intorduced as a punishment for mastrubation, and was done with NO anaestehtic to punish litle boys. And thatthis was done by men WITH foreskins



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Re: Botched circumcision  [message #22720 is a reply to message #22699] Mon, 01 November 2004 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pyro is currently offline  Pyro

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Oh those videos are hard to watch :'-( i'm sure if i had been any older at the time it would have brought back some very very painful memories. As for anestetic, rumor is my doctor gave me a shot of rum. imagine that, giving a 3 day old baby a shot of rum then slicing off his forskin, how cruel. I'm not mad at my parents for having it done, they were told by the doctors that it was the right thing to do and so like many other people they just accepted what the doctors said as true and had it done. I do feel betrayed by the medical world and i feel angery. It really sucks having to pay for a very stupid decision that wasn't even yours to make. Still i had a forskin for 3 days and i can and have been restoring which has been an interesting, very slow prosess that requires increadable determindness. Unless there is some amazing medical breakthrough my penis will never be exactly the way it would have been at birth but life goes on.
As a side note, i still don't understand why anyone would think that it would prevent masterbation, well that's not exactly true, i do know through a little reasurch and a few interesting conversations with friends that it's comparitevely more difficult to masturbate without forskin but it never stopped me.
I have a funny feeling that history will look back on this practice in a smilar way as to how we look back now to doctors who drilled holes in people's skulls to stop headaches.


Pyro.



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icon9.gif Re: Botched circumcision  [message #22724 is a reply to message #22699] Mon, 01 November 2004 16:33 Go to previous message
Shawn is currently offline  Shawn

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If my parents had been made to watch that video before their decision, I would still have my foreskin. All parents of boy babies should have to see that video and what the procedure actually involves before they consent to have it done on their enfant. I think it would change a lot of minds. It was very hard to watch.

Shawn
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