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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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As we define the span and progression of time, can we afford to overlook opportunities as they present themselves?
Is it possible to retrace ones steps... To relive nuances of life we chose to bypass in earlier times?
As life moves continually forward from one moment to the next all we really have is the present... But as the present presents itself within the dynamics of fluid motion... in effect from one second to the next... Can we, with any amount of validity truely say that we can not move forward socially, spiritually or even emotionally within the framework of any given set of circumstances?
Just an idle thought....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Dennyone
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Location: US of A
Registered: October 2004
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In a word, no. But then the question begs the answer.
the second answer, no. All the quotes now, the moving finger writes, etc.
You can never go home again, you can't step into the same stream twice, you can't turn back the hands of time, etc. again. Also, you can't live in the past. Well and good, however, and a large however here: to ignore the past is being doomed to repeat it. (this in its sinister sense) Remembering the past is not reliving it. Would anything change between then and now if we remember a particular point in our past? No, but what we do from this point on can be a reflection of our learning from our past. (Whew  )
Remember the song "I love you more today than yesterday but less than tomorrow"? Well, life is that, a snapshot moving down (or up  ) the path of life, always with a bit of "now" hovering over the moving walkway. Yesterday's "now" is just that, yesterday's. Our right "now" is just that, a bit of the present. Tomorrow is a "now" yet to be lived and enjoyed.
I sorrowfully say we can, given control and effort of will, fail to move forward socially, spiritually and especially emotionally when we dwell on the negative in our past. The framework of references you mention is what we have utter control over, in spite of what our feelings are to the contrary. If you feel like a "blue" Monday, you'll have one for certain. If you place yourself deliberately in the path of a happy person, the Monday may be glorious instead. It may not be so but you gave it a chance. You (read that as a generic "we") are your destiny.
Does that make any sense :-/ ? Sorry for the pulpit thing;-)
Dennyone
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Shawn
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Registered: July 2004
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I will just say for the verbally and mentally challenged of us here...may only be me...you can't go home again.
Marc, I hardly ever post anything here, but I always enjoyed reading yours. I'm glad you are back. ;-D
Shawn
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Registered: August 2004
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Hmm. I'd actually recommend two Star Trek items, on that question:
Deep Space Nine, the Premiere episode, and several others, dealt with whether time is linear and one-dimensional, like we tend to think of it; or whether it might be a stream or web with branch-points, eddies, and such; or whether it might even be perceivable as timeless, with past, present, and future all at once, inseparable, or even reachable again. The first episode made the point that we shouldn't let ourselves become "stuck" reliving a past event.
A Star Trek novel, now out of print, "Star Trek: The Wounded Sky," by Diane Duane. It deals with some interesting philosophical ideas about time and the nature of being human and the nature of deity. -- I got it back out to reread. It puzzled me and bothered me, when I first read it in college, but now I see it was just a different way of looking at it.
It's really confusing, but I've heard some people claim we *can* reach into the past or future, but that most people don't conceive of it as possible. I'm not sure I believe that claim, myself.
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OK, more down to earth: Even if we deeply want to go back and redo something that didn't work out right, or relive a nice moment, still, life propels us forward. Also, it's healthier not to dwell on what shouldn't have been, or even on what used to be so nice. Instead, try to make our present like those '80's songs, "Right Here, Right Now," by Jesus Jones, or that other one, "The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades," I think by the Fabulous Thunderbirds.
As I told someone else recently, sometimes we've got to turn ourselves around and turn our problems around, in order to change our point of view and make our present lives better.
And... Yes, that is harder than it sounds. I have to work on that too.
Gee, this "life" stuff is harder than it looks! But if you let it, it can be interesting thinking about the journey.
OK, sorry, my liberal arts major is showing.  Well, no, I'm not sorry. I like my liberal arts side, it's kept me going; a little confused at times, but better than the alternative.
~Blue
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Liberal arts, star trek, Blue you're my hero. (deep space nine was one of my favorites especialy the first eppisode, where the borg blow up the Saratoga and Ben can't save his wife "Every time i close my eyes i see her there!" yes no one can do drama like he can. wow.
As for time traveling and stuff... well i had a very interesting massivley long post that showes off my physics major but when i got to the end i decided that it was a bit long and not really that interesting. Bottom line, time travel is theoreticaly possible if you bend the rules a little but the methods thought up so far are not very practical. My advice, take solace in the fact that you are a time traveler, you are traveling one second at a time toward the future and when you really think about it, that's amazing.
Oh and before i forget, just to clear something up, i am NOT a treky. Treky is a dirty word that i'd rather never hear in my presence. I am a Star Trek FAN, i like all the series except the orginals with Kirk, those were okay but not my favorites. I also like Enterprise but i'm kinda wondering what's going to happen to that show now that Scott Bakula isn't out in the far reaches of space kicking Zindy (i wonder how you spell that) ass. Oh but i do live only about 200 km from the small town of Vulcan where yearly star trek conventions are held, i bought a pair of rubber vulcan ears there once.
Okay well i guess i hijacked the thread...sorry about that.
Live long and prosper,
Pyro.
Do what you love, changing the world is incidental.
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blue
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Registered: August 2004
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;-D  You're welcome! My calculus and trig are more rusty than I want to admit, and the physics would be lost on me, except in general terms. But I'd get the point. No reason not to include a scientific angle on the subject, go ahead.
Your comment that we're all time travelers going one second into the future, well said.
Heh, and I grew up when reruns of the original series were all there were. I like science fiction, and all of the Trek series, although Enterprise has been the weakest. I'm also a Farscape fan, as you'll note from my sig.
Oh, and my name's Ben, so I'm rather partial to that name. I think I may have said my name once before, in a reply to Eothain, on this forum.
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Farscape...what an awesome show ;-D i love that show!
As for the physics part...i'm not going to lie to you, it's been almost a year since i talked about this topic in physics and while i learned it all really well i still can't quite remember some parts with complete confidence and so i decided to omit it rather than skrew it up.
Watch "the eligant universe" with Brian Green (i think that's his name) that show is sometimes on the discovery channel and is totaly awesome, it explains all of this way way better than i possibly could.
by the way...when i was in highschool i once witnessed a startrek quote war. That's when to Trekies sit accross each other at a table, they are given an issue to argue and they can only use quotes from star trek. It was really strange yet fun to watch...they had tonnes of rules about correctly quoting and verifying the accurcy of the quote.
I think i'm proud to say i don't watch Trek that much.
Pyro.
Do what you love, changing the world is incidental.
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