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I found this piece in a book I am reading at the moment, and thought I would share it. The author is discussing attitudes towards sex in nineteenth century America.
John Harvey Kellogg gained a reputation as both a nutritionist and a sexual adviser. He thought sex the ultimate abomination and remained chaste even in marriage. Masturbation was the worst sin of all, "the vilest, the basest, and the most degrading act that a human being can commit." In his view, it led not only to the usual stuff like tuberculosis, heart disease, epilepsy, dimness of vision, insanity, idiocy, and death, but also to bashfulness in some people, unnatural boldness in others, a fondness for spicy foods, round shoulders, and "acne, or pimples on the face." Kellogg introduced a number of foods designed to promote health and decrease interest in sex, one of which he called Corn Flakes. The rest, as they say, is history.
Bernie Zilbergeld, "The New Male Sexuality", Bantam Books
Well, it's a good story, but is the bit about Corn Flakes actually true? I was inspired to undertake further research and found this account by Burton Folsom, who claims that Corn Flakes were actually invented by John Harvey's younger brother, Will Keith.
Will sometimes joined his brother in food experiments. This was the case during 1894 when the two brothers fixed a mass of wheat dough, boiled it for different lengths of time, and put it through rollers to press it into large sheets.
One night during these casual experiments, Will left the dough out overnight before he rolled it. When he later returned to the kitchen, he ran the dough through the rollers as before - but instead of forming a flat sheet, the dough broke up into flakes. Will was puzzled. The moisture had spread evenly to each individual wheat berry, and the dough had broken into flakes instead of binding together. Will could have thrown the flakes out and mixed up another batch of dough. Instead, he took them to his brother and suggested serving them for breakfast. J.H. wanted to crush them into bits, but Will served the flakes whole.
The results seem to have surprised even Will. The folks crunched happily during breakfast and asked for more. J.H. decided to patent the new process for flaked cereal.
You can read Mr Folsom's full account at http://www.libertyhaven.com/thinkers/willkellogg/willkellogg.html
Rather disappointingly, however, Mr Folsom doesn't mention anything at all about the sexual dimension to Corn Flakes.
It is, perhaps, somewhat ironic that for many years Corn Flakes packets have featured a cock. I wonder what John Harvey Kellogg would have made of that.
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He would have circumcised it. He was a vigorous promoter of circumcision in the USA and is one of the reasons so many boys have lost out hugely on the penile sensitivity stakes there. A "cure" for masturbation is circumcision, without anaesthetic, to "associate the pain of the surgery with the act of masturbation"
He probably created the lube industry "singel handedly"
Oh yes. He also started each day with up to three enemas. Go figure!
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Graham crackers were developed for much the same reason, apparently. During the victorian era and immediately following, it was reasoned that spicy food "excited the senses" and led one into "unwholesome activities" and " self abuse." So they invented a cracker that was bland as hell, but sweet enough to attract children.
cheers!
AJ
"I promise not to try not to fuck with your mind/ I promise not to mind if you go your way and i go mine/promise not to lie if i'm looking you right in your eye/promise not to try not to let you down."
--Eve6
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Did he die of prostate cancer? After all, acording to my mother, "if you don't use it, you lose it"  Although somehow i don't think this is what she had in mind when she made that statement ;-D
hehehe.
Take care,
Pyro.
Do what you love, changing the world is incidental.
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timmy
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Well it;s what my sexual health counsellor says. If you can't have sex daily certainly masturbate each day. Ability to reach an orgasm diminishes if the pemis is unused.
And, since frequent ejaculation uses the prostate, it keeps it healthy.
Massage is also good.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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He lived to quite a good age - 91 in fact.
And yes, he did advocate circumcision:
"A remedy [for masturbation] which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision...The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind...In females, the author has found the application of pure carbolic acid to the clitoris an excellent means of allaying the abnormal excitement."
JH Kellogg
One does rather feel for his wife. Their marriage was never consummated and they lived in separate apartments.
For more on JH Kellogg and Sylvester Graham and their views on masturbation and sex follow the link below:
http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/10/graham.htm
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marc
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John Harvey Kellog had at least one son....
For that to have happened there must have been at least one shot in the dark.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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He had an orderly give him an enema every morning!! Well, I think I know why this jerk never consumated his marriage. He was into anal sports with his orderly! And was thus guilt ridden.
The son? Well if you were his wife would you not have "played away"?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I suppose she could have "played away" but i doubt it after getting "pure carbolic acid to the clitoris" i mean, OMG i'm not a woman but still i imagine that must hurt something fierce. I mean, i've had battery acid spilled on my hands before and it was diluted with water but it still burned. I can only imagine what pure acid on such a sensitive place must be like. *there is no emoticon for how i feel about this lol* Well i'm glad i didn't know him . I wonder why he didn't just cut his penis right off, i mean, it's not like he needed it for anything.
LOL Kellogg was like the total opposite of my psycology prof this semester. He was sex obssesed or something...i'll give you an example of a question he put on the board for us durring our unit on conflict management.
"Jack and Jill were out on a romantic drive through the country side when they decided they wanted to have sex. Jack pulled the car over and sugested that they do it in the back seat but Jill hates the way the seat squeeks and suggested going across the street to the cheap motel instead. Jack didn't want to spend the money, Jill accused him of treating her like a penny whore and Jack slept on the couch that night" and then it goes on to ask what kind of conflict management stratagy they should have used and bla bla bla... the point his my prof wrote that question and others like it all the time. It sure made class interesting though, i guess perhaps that was the point.
Take care,
Pyro.
Do what you love, changing the world is incidental.
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timmy
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Victorian fathers used to "amputate their daughters' clitoris" to remove sexual over-excitement. Obviously this was restricted tothe upper classes with access to doctors and money.
Why are people obsessed with other people's genitals? I mean apart from enjoying the view!
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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I wonder why people obcess over something so trivial as well.
People do as culture and/or religion dictates. Nothing is going to change the way they think.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Marc wrote:
> People do as culture and/or religion dictates. Nothing is going to change the way they think.
Sadly you may be right. Even so I see nothing wrong with anyone chipping away at those thoughts. After all homosexuality, a major cultural and religious taboo, has started to gain a place as a part of normality on many cultures. Had not a set of individuals started to chip away we would not have even as great a tolerance in society as we have today.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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There is chipping and then there is obcession.
If (like I've also been told) a focus becomes too accute then the effect is more one of abrasion than of succor.
Just my opinion though...
Personally, I prefer cut to uncut... Hands down...
But that also is just my opinion...
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Marc wrote:
> Personally, I prefer cut to uncut... Hands down...
You are expressing an aesthetic preference, not a preference for your own body. However, if you have lived your life save for the time when you were cut as a neonatal with no foreskin then you do not know because you cannot know, what you were deprived of by the decisions of others.
Body modification by an informed person of his own body is one thing. A campaign by a man with weird sexual predilections such as Kellog is another.
Let those who choose to be circumcised be circumcised. I have no objection to that at all. I object simply to Male Genital Mutilation of infants by those who should know better. The keyword here is choice.
I don't feel wholly comfortable with the rhetoric, you know. I feel belittled by the posts on this topic referring to obsession. I have been obsessed. But not over this.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Oh... well... I didnt mean anything by it...
But through the years the subject in posts and polls has surfaced quite often...
Just making an observation...
Just vocing my opinion...
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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