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A busy afternoon  [message #23213] Mon, 27 December 2004 18:26 Go to next message
timmy

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I have spent the afternoon "enjoyimg" migrating my email client form outlook Express to Thunderbird.. It went pretty well, all things considered. Not a poor experience, though not entirely smooth.

One lack of smoothness is that I lost my entire INBOX.

So, if you are expecting a reply fomr me and have not got one, well, that is the reason why not.

The upside is I am now far more secure against viruses. Firefox for the browser and thunderthighs for email mean that far fewer viruses are written that can exploit M$oft inherrent weaknesses in my system.

My grateful thanks to smith, who unwittingly aimed me in this direction



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: A busy afternoon  [message #23214 is a reply to message #23213] Mon, 27 December 2004 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The really ace thing is i can get new messagbeboard posts as RSS direct into thunderthighs! Go me!



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I suppose ...  [message #23218 is a reply to message #23213] Tue, 28 December 2004 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... ultimately, it doesn't really matter what stirred you to have made the journey .... all that's truly important is that you finally have!

Regarding your Outlook INBOX migration issues, I suggest you *post* a query about your difficulties here:

THUNDERBIRD

snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.thunderbird

No guarantees, but it's entirely possible that you may yet recover e-Mail from your original Outlook file system.

For difficulties you may encounter using Firefox, I suggest this information resource:

FIREFOX

snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.mozilla.firefox


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As you have chosen to employ the stand-alone versions of the Mozilla/Netscape GRE, rather than one of the many integrated suites based upon this OpenSource technology, you might also consider using each of these, the first of which is available now, the second of which is expected during the second quarter of 2005:

NVU

http://www.nvu.com/


The above is the latest generation of the Mozilla/Netscape "EDITOR" Module, which in it's earlier incarnations has shipped with all integrated Mozilla/Netscape releases since time began. This stand-alone version incorporates capabilities to handle just about every known variation of XML, DHTML, HTML, PHP, Perl, CGI and a veritable fount of esoteric features, all wrapped up in an extremely user-friendly GUI. Changes to the underlying source-code being seen first here in NVu are being adopted in other Mozilla/Netscape products.


SUNBIRD

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird.html

The stand-alone Mozilla/Netscape "CALENDAR" Module (currently available to all GRE users as an extension), but soon to be available as a non-browser or e-Mail client dependent application.


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For those Members here interested in the available OpenSource Mozilla/Netscape GRE-based applications I provide these links:

(all links are for Windows-based 80x86 computers unless otherwise noted)

MOZILLA (The entire Suite)
FIREFOX (Web-browser only)
THUNDERBIRD (e-Mail Client only)
CAMINO (Web-browser alternative to Safari for the Apple Computer)

http://www.mozilla.org/


NETSCAPE (The entire Suite)

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/

To those who may consider Netscape, as their alternative to Internet Explorer, I suggest, they by all means download and install the current release; but, better still, download one of the Mozilla applications and then eagerly await the forthcoming release of Netscape 8.0, expected late second quarter 2005. As a beta-tester for this forthcoming suite of applications I can tell you it will definitely be worth the wait. A radically re-designed GUI, "new" look, and not before seen technological changes to the Mozilla/Netscape GRE will make this THE talked about solution for your web-browsing needs in 2005, and will be the benchmark application for technological change to all using the GRE.


BEONIX (Cross-platform Web-browser Suite

http://www.beonix.com/communicator


EPIPHANY (UNIX/Linux GNOME Web-browser only)

http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/


SAFARI (Apple developed GRE-based Web-browser for OS X only)

http://www.apple.com/safari/


KONQUER0R (UNIX/Linus Suite)

http://www.konqueror.org/


LE GALEON (UNIX/Linus GNOME Web-browser only)

http://galeon.sourceforge.net/


K-MELEON

http://www.kmeleon.org/


SKIPSTONE (UNIX/Linux Gtk+ Web-browser only)

http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/


ARACHNE (DOS-based Suite)

http://www.cisnet.com/gelnnmcc/


All of the above are in various stages of development (including the FIREFOX, THUNDERBIRD, MOZILLA and NETSCAPE applications), with all uniformly supporting current and future World-wide Web Consortium Standards, many incorporating backwards computability to now obsolete Microsoft imposed technologies. None of these are vulnerable to the problems plaguing Internet Explorer and OUtlook (Express) users.


In addition, other alternatives to Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Outlook (Express) abound, notably amongst these being OPERA, PEGASUS MAIL, EUDORA and MYIE.

Just as Timmy has done, do yourself, and your computer, a favour and make the switch. Never before has the time been more fitting.


Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
Incidently ...  [message #23220 is a reply to message #23218] Tue, 28 December 2004 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Gay Deceiver is currently offline  The Gay Deceiver

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... "snews", like "news, "http", "https", "ftp", "sendmail", "mailto" and a host of others, are universally accepted OpenSource W3C-compliant standard URI protocols.

You and MEGAMAN have done wonders in adapting your original Web-site and this Forum to meet present and forthcoming protocols; but, it would appear a few glitches still remain to be addressed; this being one of them.

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To all those attempting to utilize the "snews" links provided in my previous reply ... they will work as they stand, but you must elect PORT 563 in your user preferences for each Newsgroup to utilize the Secure NewsGroup Server.

Simply clicking either "link", and amending the URI in the location bar by ADDING THE MISSING letter "s" at the beginning of the line, and your then reloading the link, will obviate any necessity to make any preference setting, as PORT 563 will automatically be selected upon page re-load.

Warren C. E. Austin
The Gay Deceiver
Toronto, Canada



"... comme recherché qu'un délice callipygian"
Re: I suppose ...  [message #23222 is a reply to message #23218] Tue, 28 December 2004 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Warren C. E. Austin wrote:
> ... ultimately, it doesn't really matter what stirred you to have made the journey .... all that's truly important is that you finally have!
>
> Regarding your Outlook INBOX migration issues, I suggest you *post* a query about your difficulties here:
>
For "lost" read "deleted because I had imported it successfully". I lost it with finger trouble later.

Actually it is not at all important that I have made the journey. I have simply become increasingly convinced that M$oft products leave a computer vulnerable to viruses.



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Re: Incidently ...  [message #23223 is a reply to message #23220] Tue, 28 December 2004 20:16 Go to previous message
megaman is currently offline  megaman

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Warren C. E. Austin wrote:
> ... "snews", like "news, "http", "https", "ftp", "sendmail", "mailto" and a host of others, are universally accepted OpenSource W3C-compliant standard URI protocols.
>
> You and MEGAMAN have done wonders in adapting your original Web-site and this Forum to meet present and forthcoming protocols; but, it would appear a few glitches still remain to be addressed; this being one of them.

AFAIK the board DOES recognize http, https, ftp, and news in URLs (note we don't care about the more general URI and therefore talk of URL Wink). I'd have a LOT to do to follow all W3C standards and always update all software to be "leading-edge-compliant" with them. btw, just because we are being a bit nitpicky right now: the website can't be adapted to new PROTOCOLS, if at all one can adapt it to understand and recognize new protocol identifiers (which are more rightly called schemes or scheme components really, because something like "file" is not a protocol) in URIs.

for the schemes you mentioned ... let's be serious, none of them can hardly be considered important AT LEAST on this board. apart from that, none of the more obscure ones you mentioned are registered as official URI scheme with IANA, so f*** them.

and for news/snews I can't help but think that newsgroups are IMHO a rather dead relict of the early internet. the majority of what used to be discussed on newsgroups maybe 10 years ago has been moved to mailing lists and forums. in the long term I predict them to die entirely for many (good) reasons.
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