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icon12.gif A painful dilemma  [message #23532] Tue, 25 January 2005 11:05 Go to next message
JFR is currently offline  JFR

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If A knows something about B and B knows that A knows (but A thinks that B doesn't know he knows) should A tell B that he knows what he knows? Or should B tell A that he knows that he knows what he knows? To further complicate the situation: if what A knows about B is only partially correct (and B knows that what A knows is only partially correct) should B inform A that what he knows is not fully correct? Or, alternatively, should B tell C that what A knows is only partially correct? If B chooses this alternative would he have to reveal to C what it is that A knows about B? May B tell C what it is that A knows about B which is incorrect? If C knows that what A knows about B is incorrect (at least partially) should he inform D - who is very close to A - that A knows something about B that is partially incorrect? Please let me have your thoughts on this matter because I am very confused.



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Re: A painful dilemma  [message #23544 is a reply to message #23532] Tue, 25 January 2005 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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*sits and stares into his alphabet soup, dazed and bewildered*

Huh?



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Re: A painful dilemma  [message #23547 is a reply to message #23532] Tue, 25 January 2005 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This has all made me think of Waterloo East station in London, where the platforms are not numbered but are lettered, A, B, C and D.

Waterloo East serves, among many other places, Hayes, in Kent. Or 'Ayes as it is said.

Often there are platform changes. D's train can be heard announced as "D's train coming in on B". Very confusiong if you're 'eading for 'Ayes. Cos when it ios announced over the tannoy "A's train coming in on C", you don;t know it if was the train originaly for the A platform or the one serving 'Ayes.

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Anyone wanting to know more? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_station

I am still struggling with A, B and C. I got distracted.



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Re: A painful dilemma  [message #23548 is a reply to message #23547] Wed, 26 January 2005 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think i'm lost at sea... or c as the case may be...


seriously, where does C fit into it. D i can understand, but you failed to show who C is, a random stranger they both meet?

ummm
certainly neither A nor B should involve a 3rd party, because if A tells C, C could tell B, but what B finds out from C may not be the same as what A told C. C may be trying to provoke hostilities between A and B (possibly to usurp their alphabetical position)

let me get this straight, i hope
A knows something about B
B knows that A knows something, but A doesn't know B knows.
should A tell B?
ummm depends, is what they know kinda common knowledge, i.e A knows B is dating E, its not private, it simply hasn't been made public, and B doesn't mind A knowing.
how did A come about this information, was it a result of rumour from someone else? if so, yes, tell, to resolve the rumour (worked for me today!) or was A spying on B (eavesdropping) and will the nature of the information affect any possible future relations between A and B?

as to the second part, about it only being partially correct, yes, B should tell, because A may do things he wouldn't do otherwise, and worse, other people may learn of the partially correct information and draw damaging conclusions.
cetainly, if possible neither C or D should be involved.


this all reminds me of an old joke. why is Six afraid of Seven? because Seven eight Nine...



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Re: A painful dilemma  [message #23550 is a reply to message #23532] Thu, 27 January 2005 06:32 Go to previous message
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This is more confusing than my Linear Algebra homework...ummm...dude, i'm trying to figure this out, serious i am, and i think i get it but i dunno...think maybe we could introduce names instead of letters eg;
A = Alex
B = Brent
C = Chris
D = David

I think you gotta explain this again, it's soooo confusing. Wink


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