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Corporate America and Religion  [message #23773] Mon, 14 February 2005 22:33 Go to next message
timmy

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We have just had a BBC news item about religion in the workplace in corporate USA, specifically in Atlanta.

We have seen "Integrity Bank" which has tellers sing Amazing Grace at the end of the day. Corporate chaplains in the workplace. News that Coca Cola embodies workplace religion.

In general in such places religion seems to embrace bigotry, not tolerance.

It looks like a society that also worships its president.

So we have moneylenders in the temple, and it appears "other gods than me".

It also appears to be becomeing fascist. Not just politically, but by religion. Does that allow thoday's new generation of gay teenagers to hope for a more just society? I don't think it does. What do you think?



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Re: Corporate America and Religion  [message #23776 is a reply to message #23773] Tue, 15 February 2005 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brian! is currently offline  brian!

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I started a new job recently, scared to death of being me, but after the second day, I feel much more at ease.

Our plant manager has us at the top, we are all equal, and in numbers, we are the top.

We're the newest "plant" to be opened, and we're out doing the eight that came before us. He believes in "P.R.I.D.E.", which "D" stands for Diversity, which in his words includes gay, lesbian, and transgender. Along with the different races.

I believe what your post says, but, I also believe now that some are begging to be different.

I'd love to see more companies in the U.S. like the one I'm now working for, it'd make this country a much better place to live in.

Brian



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Re: Corporate America and Religion  [message #23781 is a reply to message #23773] Wed, 16 February 2005 00:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Religion in the workplace..... Well I guess it could be in worse places.

As for the new generation.... Well I think wethat it is fascist or unjust it will affect all the generation, not just the gay portion of it.



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Re: Corporate America and Religion  [message #23783 is a reply to message #23773] Wed, 16 February 2005 13:52 Go to previous message
NW is currently offline  NW

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"Does that allow thoday's new generation of gay teenagers to hope for a more just society? "

No, I'm sure it doesn't. But 'hoping' for a more just society has never been enough. It might motivate gay (and non-gay) teenagers to *work* for a more just society.

And I don't think that corporate "Christianity" and the intolerance it promotes has anything to do with religion (any more than rape has to do with love). Nor do I think "Muslim fundamentalism" in (eg) Afghanistan has anything to do with religion.

I'm lucky enough to have a circle of friends and close acquiantances that includes (straight) people following the Muslim, and Hindu faiths, as well as members of the Ba'hai community, and a wide variety of Christian beliefs from Quaker to Catholic. Oh, and those with no religious beliefs - Humanists. The thing we all have in common is the belief that we all find our own way, and support each other to try to reduce the social, corporate, and societal pressures and laws that make it so difficult. None of us would seek to try to impose our own religious traditions (dietary observances and the like) on anyone else. It's not always easy, but it does mean that if one of us feels the need to 'stand up and be counted' on a particular issue, chances are that most of us can offer support in some way.

And that's what it's always taken. People prepared to stand up for their beliefs, and to defend the beliefs of others.

There may not be quite the spirit of optimism around that there was when we were teens in the late 60's. But there will always be youthful idealism, and there will always be older role-models and heroes to inspire that idealism to work for a more just and tolerant society. And, whatever we believe, we can be thankful for that!


just my own point of view, of course, and undoubtedly influenced by my own religious beliefs - which happen to be in the Christian tradition, in case it wasn't obvious.



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