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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I used to think this didn't need to be said. But I found out earlier today that I need to say it.
Do not, ever, give your credit or other account card or other details to any porn site or probably to any age verification system.
OK, this is not for the reason you would expect. I don't actually care if they charge your credit card from here until doomsday. I care instaed about what type of people have your card details.
Let me play out a scenario here:
You give your card to "Adultporn Inc" to see perfectly lawful porn. You are a happy customer. You even cancelled the membership and they were as good as gold and stopped charging you.
A long time later, after you have forgotten that you even looked at Adultporn Inc's wares, there is a knock on your door. Several large uniformed policemen arrest you because your account was a subscriber to "Kiddiporn Inc". You are held in a police station, your life is trampled over, your computer is seized, and you are terrified.
"But I only ever went to Adultporn Inc!" And you protest.
What you didn't know was that Adultporn Inc and Kiddieporn Inc are one and the same organisation. They were raided six months ago and ALL subscribers to the organisation, all, without exception, are being rounded up because it is suspected that they have unlawful pictures in their possession.
The fact that you are innocent is not relevant. Friends, neighbours have seen you crammed into a police car. You have several weeks of horrible anticipation of a potential eventual trial. And you may be unable to prove your innocence.
I found out because this scenario is a posisble explanation of what happened to someone I know in the early part of yesterday. There are other explanations too.
[Updated on: Fri, 04 March 2005 14:58]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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It never fails......
In the end it always comes back to bite you in the ass.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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i wholeheartedly agree with what timmy says.
the internet can be, and is, in many places, a safe place to talk, to learn, to play, to have fun. you can shop there, subscribe to e-zines and professional forums (like a naval forum i would love to be a part of, but cannot afford) but the internet has a darker underside, and all to often these days it seems like the good part of the net is floating like a thin pastel sheen on a thick layer of mud.
there very few problems with handing card details over to people like amazon, paypal/ebay, tescos etc mainly because you have clear legal recourse if anything goes wrong.
but beware the dark side.
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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The answer here, as always is "If it loooks as though it might be embarrassing later, do not do it now."
99.9999% of stuff we do is with honest and decent people. And mostly when we deal with the dishonest we manage not to get burnt.
Rarely we get burnt through no genuine fault of our own. That seems to have happened in this case. I'm not going to mention who it is, nor go into specifics in any way at all. It just seems that the action was badly mistaken.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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As far as embarrasment, well some could consider posting here and having that fact found out by some a bit embarrassing.
When a person chooses to pay for a porn site they in more cases than not take a risk that they are not aware of.
The snakes that sell these memberships care not one squat who falls in their wake.
It is better to just abstain from internet venues.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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The thing to do with the porn site is NOW and AT ONCE to print off the advert pane that you signed up to, and also print off the entry page. You need to store this with your credit card as "reasonable proof" that you have gone to a lawful porn site. It might do no harm to get a trusted friend to sign the print as a witness that you have signed up to something "normal". This needs to be stored with your other important papers. Then you stop worrying because you have protected yourself as best you are able.
The porn industry is mainly legit! Well according to Gartner anyway. They state that it is the most sucessful e-commerce sector
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Hey timmy, how is it going with him? i dont know who else to ask, and im kinda lacking any info, we spoke, but i think this subject is over talked about. not gonna use names, but anyway. i think hes tired of talking bout it, i would be too, but u have any ideas how hes doing.
Dee.
u can email me, cos i dont know if he would like his privacy violated, if u would be so kind
A truth told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent
-William Blake
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or maybe you could email him yourself, thats if i understand the meaning behind your post
Odi et amo: quare id faciam, fortasse requiris.
Nescio, set fieri sentio et excrucior
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I don't think the perosn concerned will mind an email if you know who he is. But I don't want any speculation here, please, on identities. People are assuming he is a visitor here. I just want to remind you all that I know many people outside this environment, too.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Just back to the credit card thing for a moment, and a word regarding PayPal.
It's a very useful system this, but it does have drawbacks like evrything else, one being that conmen love to try and pull stunts with PayPal customers.
Just last week I received an email which started something like:
"Your account has been randomly flagged for a Validation check. Please follow the link below and complete the Verification of your details.
It certainly LOOKED like a genuine PayPal document, but I became suspicious when it asked for my account number and even PIN number would you believe?
I contacted PayPal and complained bitterly about this request, and I got an immediate reply asking me to send a copy of the email in question to their fraud department.
A day later I received thanks from the genuine PayPal people that I had acted so promptly and they were investigating with a view to prosecution of the perpetrators of the false email.
Pity they didn't send a monetary reward, but there you go - can't have everything!
If anyone else gets what they think might be one of these, BE WARNED. Give absolutely no details and inform PayPal immediately.
Keep your money safe guys.... lol.
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Genuine emails from PayPal always address you by your first and last name (or the business name associated with your PayPal account). Emails which include other salutations such as "Dear PayPal User" or "Dear PayPal Member" are usually fraudulent.
Also, PayPal says they will never ask you to reveal your password. There are no exceptions to this policy.
If you suspect that you may have received a fraudulent email, PayPal asks that you forward the entire email — including the header information — to spoof@paypal.com. They investigate every spoof reported.
Further security tips are on the website.
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